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Jun 17^th, 2008 at 4:26pm

Rich H Offline
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For my birthday, I am getting the Abacus: 787 Dreamliner, A380, and the Airbus fleet. Does anyone else have any of these planes, if so what are they like?

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Reply #1 - Jun 17^th, 2008 at 4:28pm

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You know for sure you're getting them? Tongue

Check the bottom forum, I made a topic very like yours just the other day

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Reply #2 - Jun 17^th, 2008 at 4:35pm

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Anxyous wrote on Jun 17^th, 2008 at 4:28pm:

You know for sure you're getting them? Tongue

Check the bottom forum, I made a topic very like yours just the other day

Yep, pretty sure i'm getting them. What was your post called?

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Reply #3 - Jun 17^th, 2008 at 4:42pm

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Abacus A380 or something.

Bottom forum.

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Reply #4 - Jun 18^th, 2008 at 2:44am

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I also had a look at their planes but got only negatives when I posted in payware about em.

They have a fly before you buy policy meaning you may fly their models for 7 days free.

I tried that and must say, I have plenty of freeware planes of equal/better quality.

But again they are cheap, low on FPS hits. Maybe the only advantage IMO.

Rather fork out a little extra for better quality.

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Reply #5 - Jun 18^th, 2008 at 5:53pm

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It's something that is freeware quality, but you're paying for it. Well, if you're getting it as a gift, then I suppose you're not paying for it, but all the same. You would be much better off buying just one decent addon from somewhere like Flight1 instead of getting 3 garbage addons from Abacus.

Just FYI, this post is totally opinionated Cheesy

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Reply #6 - Jun 21^st, 2008 at 9:06am

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For another opinionated post, I've had those models for a long time. I like them, because they satisfy *my* jetliner needs.

I do waulify that I am not a "tin sausage" driver, so these are perfect when I feel the urge to deviate from the norm...

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Reply #7 - Jun 21^st, 2008 at 11:44am

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Felix/FFDS wrote on Jun 21^st, 2008 at 9:06am:

For another opinionated post, I've had those models for a long time. I like them, because they satisfy *my* jetliner needs.

I do qualify that I am not a "tin sausage" driver, so these are perfect when I feel the urge to deviate from the norm...

My favourite program from dear old Abacus is...EZ-Scenery.

Scenery designer....>>>>

http://www.abacuspub.com/catalog/s600.htm

Worth its weight in gold for all those desolate Sim Airfields...

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Reply #8 - Jun 23^rd, 2008 at 9:39pm

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The only thing I ever purchased from Abacus was Flight Deck 3. I ended up deleting all the aircraft (there were much better freewares, even three years ago), and just keeping the carriers. Since then I avoid Abacus. If I'm going to pay for an aircraft, I want quality.

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Reply #9 - Jun 23^rd, 2008 at 9:46pm

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<GASP> You didn't buy WW2 Carrier Ops? You want me to starve!!!

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Reply #10 - Jun 25^th, 2008 at 2:18pm

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The problem with postings like this is there is no definition of better. One mans meat is another mans poison so to speak. An awful lot of people do not want to be bogged down by half an hour start up procedures and Abacus (and other publishers) cater to that need.

So come on guys stop knocking producers and publishers because they don't model to your taste.

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Reply #11 - Jun 25^th, 2008 at 9:23pm

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It wasn't the procedures or complexity of the aircraft I had a problem with, it was the quality of the models. The modelling was outdated, as were the panels. There are freeware aircraft, that are just as easy to fly and operate, and look 100% better.

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<GASP> You didn't buy WW2 Carrier Ops? You want me to starve!!!

It was actually a gift from a well intentioned relative. Sorry Felix. Wink

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Reply #12 - Jun 28^th, 2008 at 7:48am

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I personally like FS planes which have : Cockpit, doesn't have to be a very good one, I don't use FMC; virtual cockpit; custom sound packages; not too hard flight dynamics, and reasonably good textures and model. For me, Abacus has all these.

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Reply #13 - Jun 28^th, 2008 at 4:25pm

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Rich H wrote on Jun 28^th, 2008 at 7:48am:

I personally like FS planes which have : Cockpit, doesn't have to be a very good one, I don't use FMC; virtual cockpit; custom sound packages; not too hard flight dynamics, and reasonably good textures and model. For me, Abacus has all these.

And thats great!

But for developers/publishers to expect nothing but praise is slightly unrealisitic i feel. I dont like Vauxhall Motor cars in general but i dont write to there head ofice and praise them for making cars that maybe dont tailor to my needs but for people who like cars that are in my view low quality and dont handle very well, they are great and thanks very much! do i???

If you sell somthing that you have made/developed/built/whatever, then you should expect praise and critique from the paying masses no matter what it is...

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Reply #14 - Jun 29^th, 2008 at 7:17am

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I dont like Vauxhall Motor cars in general but i dont write to there head ofice and praise them for making cars that maybe dont tailor to my needs but for people who like cars that are in my view low quality and dont handle very well, they are great and thanks very much! do i???

No one is asking for praise for products you don't think are very good, but the general panning that Abacus seem to suffer seems a little lopsided to me. Yes they have fairly generic cockpits yes they may (or have in the past used generic engine sounds, but they fulfil the beginners (and many others) expectations and do not scare them off with accurate but overly complex systems and procedures. In short it is horses for courses.

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