Quote:Now, just a question.. It might have something to do with airline training (getting you used to flap use ALL the time).. the only time I'll have any flaps deployed during takeoff, is when I'm genuinely concerned about clearing an obstacle. A C172 with reduced fuel; and only a 150lb pilot on-board (not gonna do the metric conversion), will get light on the wheels in a hurry, with flaps out.
I don't take off with flaps extended, only when doing short fields. The first time this happened I was performing a touch and go. The flap selector was on 0 but the flaps were still retracting when I applied power. The second time was 0 flaps from a full stop.
I would say you are right in saying I should be anticipating rather than correcting, which would avoid this effect even beginning.
Quote:Wingo, if you don't mind me asking, do you know what your total weight was on that take-off or both take-offs? If I remember right, you're not a huge person (no offense, I just mean you don't weight 400 lbs or anything Wink). I've actually heard of people who have had troubles with control when they're flying solo in a lightly loaded aircraft and they've had to throw a cinderblock or two in the luggage compartment to balance things out.
I can't say for sure, but on both it would have been very close to 950kg or 2090lbs, with myself at 60kg or around 130lbs.
Quote:BTW... just a little nit-picking: "Traction" refers to powered wheels ("the transference of mechanical force through friction" or whatever the definition is). Friction is all a free-wheeling airplane tire can provide. And not much, at that. Grin
Not assuming anyone here thinks Cessna wheels are powered; just a little observation.
I will keep that one in mind! I didn't realise that there was a difference
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