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F1 GP Canada: Your predictions (Read 2824 times)
Jun 2
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Montreal this weekend, home to "The wall of champions".. can Kimi avoid it? Can Lewis repeat last year? Will Kubica get BMW's first victory...? Hopefully he can avoid an accident like last year's
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1: Hamilton
2: Raikkonen
3: Kubica
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CD, seems your predictions are exactly what I was intending to put...
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I see it being similar to last weekend if Lewis or Massa keep Kimi off the front row. If Kimi is as disinterested as he was then, I think Kubica will get past him comfortably.
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Hamilton had a good race here last year, but has he got the pace to beat the red cars this weekend? I think so. Mass looks the more lively of the two red car drivers just recently so this week I'm going with:
1: Hamilton
2: Massa
3: Raikkonen
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Kimi
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Jun 2
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expat wrote
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Hamilton
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Jun 2
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Hamilton
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C wrote
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expat wrote
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Hamilton
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Matt
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Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
There is going to be lots of points or tears this weekend.
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Hmmmmm.
Going on the Ferraris pace at monaco, it would be hard to not back them for a one two. But that pace was really only shown in qualifying at monaco..
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Lewis
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Looks like it could be another wet race this weekend. So I'm concerned about my predictions LOL
A slight funny thing in FP1, Jenson Button decided to turn the wheel at about the 50 metre board, the car finally turned just at the corner. I think thats what you call understeer to the extreme
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Jun 6
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Craig. wrote
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A slight funny thing in FP1, Jenson Button decided to turn the wheel at about the 50 metre board, the car finally turned just at the corner. I think thats what you call understeer to the extreme
Or anticipating what the car's going to do to perfection...
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True:)
The other things from today seem to be. Trulli's seemingly never ending spins. Seems like they are happening every other lap. And thats been both sessions.
Lewis almost hit a Gopher at the hairpin, and has almost hit the wall of Champs twice.
And apparently the news from the paddock is, DC will retire this year and move to the BBC. With Vettel going to his seat alongside Webber.
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Jun 6
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I find it very interesting that no one is giving the ferrari's a chance. Even though they are flying round
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...with a Mac and a BMW in the top two, and Hamilton just lowerd the bar with a corker of a lap in the dying seconds!
What happened to Massa? Seemed it just died on him?
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gearbox or electronics I think. Was a really odd problem.
He seemed to go from 4th into neutral, then it gave him 4th back and hopped back in N again. It was funny watching them try to clear it, finally Massa steps in to help
It would appear after FP2 we have the standard weekend on our hands, Ferrari are quicker on the hard tyre long runs, Mclaren better on the short run on the soft tyre, Ferrari more consistent on a long run on the softs.
I think this weekend Kubica could really throw a spanner into the works for both teams, his car looks very quick on the first lap of his hard and soft tyre runs.
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indeed, Kubica could be the dark horse of the weekend, if he can stick it on the front row...
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Craig. wrote
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I think this weekend Kubica could really throw a spanner into the works for both teams, his car looks very quick on the first lap of his hard and soft tyre runs.
Autosport seem to think so...
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Despite attempts to watch FP3 (and failing) according to autosport, Rosberg ended up quickest, vettel had a (seemingly big?) shunt, although none broke into the 1.15's like they did yesterday.
Roll on qualifying! Is Brundle driving the Lotus this week? Im sure ive seen it lined up amongst the selection of cars hes 'testing'
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yep its the lotus this week, then the one I'm looking forward to most the bennaton next race:)
It was a wet track to begin with from what I can see with the F1 timing screen, the grip had been washed away frm yesterday. Plus as usual it was race setup today for the big 3 and they rarely go out to set the fastest possible lap.
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here we go again the lewis hamilton show
thats quite an odd quali. Either the Ferrari's are super heavy or Lewis is really light.
Cant tell with Massa as they didn't show his laps, but Kimi certainly messed up his entry to the hairpin on both his laps.
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yes indeed.....fantastic last lap though
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Cant tell with Massa as they didn't show his laps, but Kimi certainly messed up his entry to the hairpin on both his laps.
The exit wasn't much better either. To be fair, Lewis pulled it out of the bag. I wonder if we can write of Kimi again. Maybe he'll just retire. Tomorrow.
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right now theres every possibility there wont be a race tomorrow.
Such a noise is being made about the track surface, it wouldn't surprise me if there was another indy 05 situation. Only this time the Ferrari's are just as upset as every one else.
Lewis did do a great lap. I think tomorrow it may proove to be a very good lap, looking over the times and the fact Kubica was the only close one, it suggests that maybe they both just put in a decent lap.
Rumors are suggesting that Ferrari might have gone for a wet weather compromise, not quite fully wet but also not dry just incase.
Gotta give both Nico, Alonso and Rubens credit for their laps. All of them punching above their weight.
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machineman9 wrote
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Whats the chances of this not going ahead tomorrow???? Notice a few Drivers are 'whining and bitching' about the track (ok they have some reason i guess!)
I recall spa from 1985 (i think!) when they all went home and it happened later in the year for similar reasons...although F1 was highly commercialised by then, it wasnt the TV monster its become today where 'the show must go on' aka Indy 2005.
Although Ferrari are also in the 'bitching and whining' club this time. But that could just be excuses for a pretty bad day at the office...
Maybe they can lay some fast setting stuff overnight or somthing? Although i think they did that before at other races and it ends up just as bad......
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Craig. wrote
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machineman9 wrote
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Nothing wrong with a bit of British
He's fast, he's inspirational and he carries the Union Jack
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Whats the chances of this not going ahead tomorrow???? Notice a few Drivers are 'whining and bitching' about the track (ok they have some reason i guess!)
I recall spa from 1985 (i think!) when they all went home and it happened later in the year for similar reasons...although F1 was highly commercialised by then, it wasnt the TV monster its become today where 'the show must go on' aka Indy 2005.
Although Ferrari are also in the 'bitching and whining' club this time. But that could just be excuses for a pretty bad day at the office...
Maybe they can lay some fast setting stuff overnight or somthing? Although i think they did that before at other races and it ends up just as bad......
see my post a few back, pretty much said the same
great minds and all that
They lay the quick setting stuff every year, by lap 20 its gone and we're back to the normal. What they need to do is dig that entire part of the track up and relay it completely. They keep doing the temporary fix and because it's differant to the rest of the section of track, it fails to set properly. I'd like to see that hairpin tightend, it would mean a straight run then to the final chicane, none of that right left kink just after, it would mean more overtaking into it, and more overtaking into the final chicane. And because the cars are going through it slower and for a shorter time that track is less likely to get torn up.
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As a side thing to the prediction comp, we should start a "how many times will trulli spin" competition. I think right now we are upto 9 times and at least once in every session he's driven in.
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WHY WAS THE RED LIGHT OUT?!!!
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WHY WAS THE RED LIGHT OUT?!!!
Cos the safety car string hadn't cleared the straight....
Still...low points all round today then....I'm looking at a 0 with Massa down in 17th
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WHY WAS THE RED LIGHT OUT?!!!
Mic covered it.
Stupid damn Lewis, stupid Mclaren and stupid Force India (Yes I know for a fact they were putting a voodoo on Ferrari for monaco)
Oh well at least we're looking at a new winner.
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Aside from that **** Lewis I thought it was a great race. Well done to BMW and moreso Kubica. I've said it before, if its not a ferrari, I'd like a beemer to win. Canada surprises again. The title race just got very interesting.
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Bloody hell, they are still saying "how well Lewis did"
No he didn't he made a mistake and frankly had a terrible race. Silly man
Well done to Kubica though, great race and he deserved the pole
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Well, I don't think we were expecting that!
It was a silly mistake by Hamilton, but on the plus side it was a good drive from the two BMW's, overall I'd say they did rather well!
As for starting a "how many times does Trulli spin" competition, I'm up for it!
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I love how they tried to defend Lewis for it.
I'm sorry but last year Massa and Fisi were both black flagged and crucified for running the red light, same GP so you'd have thought this year it would be clear in their minds. How do you miss a stationary car for crying out loud? Red light I could understand but two rather large cars infront of you?
I'm fairly certain Lewis will get a grid drop for france, had Kimi not been there he was going to run the red light and would have been DQ'd. Nice to see when it came time to brake he chose to change direction and aim for Kimi...
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I think its rediculous that the red light was out in the middle of crucial pit stops. I don't remember seeing this before. It cost the race 2 major contenders.
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Craig. wrote
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p Nice to see when it came time to brake he chose to change direction and aim for Kimi...
That's exactly what I said when I saw it happen.....rather convenient
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Am I the only one who thinks it was crazy to throw the red light in the middle of pit stops? Could the pace car not slow down or speed up?
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Am I the only one who thinks it was crazy to throw the red light in the middle of pit stops? Could the pace car not slow down or speed up?
No and no.
this has always happend with the safety car. While the train of cars, and the safety car is within the area of the pits the pit light will remain red. Once the safety car and the remaining cars on track have cleared the area ( i believe in canada that means just as the safety car arrives at the first chicane) the light will return to green.
This is what happend to massa and fisi last year. The safety car and race cars were long clear but the light remained red. They went out and were disqualified. In this case the safety car was just passing the pit lane exit and so the light was rightly red.
I'm seriously annoyed as it's made the championship battle a 4 way thing for no reason what so ever. Lewis was so worked up about losing a couple of places in the pits that he wasn't focused on the race itself. Sucks for Kimi but I guess what comes around, as they say, although this is a differant situation entirely, at least sutil can claim justice.
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Its being reported that Lewis and Nico will get 10 place grid drops for their pit lane whoopsies.
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All I can say is whoops. Messrs Hamilton and Rosberg were at fault and deserve their penalties.
Now, some thoughts:
1) Why on earth was there a safety car for the first Force India incident, and not the second, which was arguably more dangerous, or are the drivers not responsible enough to be trusted to slow down to a sensible speed for
waved
yellow flags.
2) Pit lane discipline needs to be sorted out. Kubica was out of his box and coming down the pitlane. The Ferrari lolly-pop man should not have released a car that leads to the situation of having two cars paralleling each other in the pitlane. In this case it could be seen as a mitigating circumstance as it appears to have confused LH and NR both moving to the left to follow the red car (Ferrari) which has pulled to the left to pass the stationary BMW?
Either way, the safety car is becoming too much of a player. As Mark Webber (IIRC) said. It's time to make the drivers take some responsibility for keeping their eyes open (at all times Lewis
). Charlie Whiting's decided too many races in the recent past.
Well done Kubica though. Well chuffed to see him on the top step.
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Nice to see a new winner..and a new loser (Lewis..what were you doing?)
And you have to feel for Kimi, he stuck to the rules and was put out of the race for his "sins".
Results will be up tomorrow, I've had a very long day and need sleep
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And you have to feel for Kimi, he stuck to the rules and was put out of the race for his "sins".
It was all a Force India plan. Sutil stops at the side of the track, and as he gets out pushes a button on the steering wheel linked to a gas lighter in the left front brake unit, forcing a fire marshal onto the track, and also the devil (aka the safety car). Meanwhile agent X and agent Y, employees of Force India take Mike Gascoyne and Vijay Mallya's gold plated plant pruners, and which the wheels are being changed, cunningly (in the fashion of a very cunning secret operative) cut the brake lines in the the McLaren and the Williams, forcing Lewis (and as a back up Nico) into the back of a helpless Kimi...
Revenge is sweet for Force India!
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Just watched the whole situation again,
Kimi was released just after Kubica, Kubica's front wheels had just passed the rear tyre guys just as Kimi had cleared his front tyre guys. With the extra run Kubica was up to speed a bit quicker but Kimi was slightly ahead the whole way down the pitlane once they were up to pit limit. I can see there being a problem on release timing, and to be fair BMW released Kubica with Massa just coming into his pit. As you say charlie, pit lane discipline needs looking at though.
Lewis was being cocky all weekend, yesterday especially, when you see the reverse angle camera the light is clearly in view and Lewis just wasn't paying attention. Maybe in future he'll shut his mouth and just do the job on the track.
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It was all a Force India plan. Sutil stops at the side of the track, and as he gets out pushes a button on the steering wheel linked to a gas lighter in the left front brake unit, forcing a fire marshal onto the track, and also the devil (aka the safety car). Meanwhile agent X and agent Y, employees of Force India take Mike Gascoyne and Vijay Mallya's gold plated plant pruners, and which the wheels are being changed, cunningly (in the fashion of a very cunning secret operative) cut the brake lines in the the McLaren and the Williams, forcing Lewis (and as a back up Nico) into the back of a helpless Kimi...
Revenge is sweet for Force India!
Hmm, do I sense some foul play from Force India?
Indeed Craig, Hamilton wasn't paying any attention at all, but
surely
he must have noticed that the two cars in front of him were stationary....how could he miss them?
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Just watched the whole situation again,
Kimi was released just after Kubica, Kubica's front wheels had just passed the rear tyre guys just as Kimi had cleared his front tyre guys. With the extra run Kubica was up to speed a bit quicker but Kimi was slightly ahead the whole way down the pitlane once they were up to pit limit. I can see there being a problem on release timing, and to be fair BMW released Kubica with Massa just coming into his pit. As you say charlie, pit lane discipline needs looking at though.
Lewis was being cocky all weekend, yesterday especially, when you see the reverse angle camera the light is clearly in view and Lewis just wasn't paying attention. Maybe in future he'll shut his mouth and just do the job on the track.
Craig, go to Youtube and enter Schumacher crash, enough to keep you occupied until the next race
He made a mistake, just like every F1 driver that has ever driven.............however, had that happened in the Hunt/Lauda era Kimi would most prrobably have landed one on him
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Ah but Matt,
Schumi never made a "mistake" like that
In general his collisions were out on track at speed and he didn't really try to hide what he did Ala 97. in that case he was stripped of the title quite rightly, the monaco one cost him the title almost certainly, so he got what he deserved.
In this case Lewis cant even stand up and say it was his fault and accept the blame, best he can do is "oh, well i'm sorry if I ruined Kimi's race"
What do you mean IF, of course you did, and even then he was being arrogent, "oh we were cruising to an easy win" No you weren't Kimi was closing down Kubica at a huge rate per lap, would have jumped him in the stops and at the pace he was going would have had Lewis in the second stops.
And just to top it off to show how big of a prat he is, his comments in his talk to Ryder before the race discussing his dads car accident, "i cant undertstand how someone can crash a car at 30mph"
Bet he does now.
Yes every one has accidents, most will hold their hands up say they made a mistake and move on. However this is the second time in less than a year that Lewis has blown it in the pits because he was under a bit of pressure. China last year, there was no need to rush, all he needed was to pick up points, so what if he lost the race, those points even back in 6th would have won him the title. But "mr head strong" blew it. And now this, again he got passed in the pits, but if he was so sure and so confident that it was a cruise to victory then being in 3rd after all that shouldn't have mattered. But nope, lets hurry on down without paying attention. Even though ron had told him the light was red.
This years title is going to be won on consistency, not out and out wins. And from the way this season is going so far, Robert Kubica or Felipe Massa are the ones who come the end of the season could be fighting it out for the championship.
And a final one, Bravo as always to the ITV team on a stellar job, We could start with Martin badgering Bernie on the grid, thats going to help your chances next year, he's got the circuit owner standing 3 feet away from him, do you honestly think Bernie will bad mouth it.
Then that useful pitlane reporter Louise, great question for Lewis, "at least it is some consolation, that if nothing else you took your main title rival out with you"
Yet Schumi parks it at monaco and they hound him the rest of the year claiming he should have been banned from the championship. But they are encouraging that
Nice job by Ted I think it was, winding up an already obviously upset Alonso into swearing on live TV.
And then we come to James Allen, I think a whole new topic is needed on this idiot.
How many times did he manage to put Robert Kubica down this race.
"coming back to a place where many thought he should have been killed in his accident last year" Sure he appreciates the constant reminder
"well he's not quite brad pitt" As Kubica is standing there on the podium
from his colum
He was focused on the flow of cars moving towards the exit and didn’t see that Kimi had stopped. He missed Kubica by inches, but – luckily for him – hit his main title rival, who could not score any points as a result.
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Hmmmm. Silly mistake from Hamilton, i like his driving, his cocky attitude and everything else, and his first laps were great to watch. I cant defend him over that incident however. I got the impression he thought Kimi had stopped for some reason and Kubica was going round him, then realised that they both indeed were coming to a halt.....to late though, and his explanation didnt really cut it did it.
Maybe when hes calmed down a bit he might tell us quite what he was focusing on as he left the pits!
However, its shook the title battle up - regardless of this incident it wasnt becoming the ferrari steamroller that many had predicted but this has made it rather interesting!
Hiedy Nickfield DID NOT look amused however, nor happy, nor glad BMW had won.
However, i dont think Hamilton did it deliberatley - i will say that.
And James Allens 'hes not Brad Pitt..' crap really made me laugh! 'Triangle Head' might not be Brad Pitt but have you looked in the mirror lately Mr Allen? Your whimsical hair, high pitched emotion lacking voice and silly face are not 'Brad Pitt' either.....if you were close to being a 'Martin Brundle' it might help somewhat
And the constant 'nearly killed him...' stuff - it was a massive shunt - but it didnt 'nearly kill him' nor 'almost kill him', 'might have killed him' or anything else for that matter. As far as i recall bar some sort of ankle/foot injury he was absolutley fine. Thats a long way from being killed....
Massa will come to regret this race though i think, he should and could have won with two of the four not scoring - he
needed
maximum points. If anything just to swing ferrari in his direction rather than kimi's. Move of the race goes to him though, great stuff at the hairpin!
Also Hamilton - it may come to bite him not scoring here later in the season - he needed it.
Good win for BMW though - its been coming.
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/68181
Wonder when his brain will kick in and tell him its a good idea to keep your mouth shut when you've just screwed up.
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Craig. wrote
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The Ruptured Duck wrote
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Am I the only one who thinks it was crazy to throw the red light in the middle of pit stops? Could the pace car not slow down or speed up?
No and no.
this has always happend with the safety car. While the train of cars, and the safety car is within the area of the pits the pit light will remain red. Once the safety car and the remaining cars on track have cleared the area ( i believe in canada that means just as the safety car arrives at the first chicane) the light will return to green.
This is what happend to massa and fisi last year. The safety car and race cars were long clear but the light remained red. They went out and were disqualified. In this case the safety car was just passing the pit lane exit and so the light was rightly red.
I'm seriously annoyed as it's made the championship battle a 4 way thing for no reason what so ever. Lewis was so worked up about losing a couple of places in the pits that he wasn't focused on the race itself. Sucks for Kimi but I guess what comes around, as they say, although this is a differant situation entirely, at least sutil can claim justice.
Just an idea, but what about binning the red light at the exit and letting cars continue out onto the track however, they haver to stay at the side of the track and on the pit lane limiter until the safety car and train of other drivers has passed. Once all cars have passed a marshal could wave a particular flag to indicate that all was now clear??
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From that autosport article:
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"Personally I think the rule is silly. We are in the race,
how can you see a red light at the end of the pitlane?
But that's the rule and I accept it."
Well everyone else did
. He needs to learn to admit he is wrong sometimes
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Because if a driver can't see a red light what makes you think they'll see a car that might be coming up onto the side of them. It's okay to say stay on the side of the track but how do you define where that ends, and what if the accident is right at the exit to the pit lane? I like the idea but it's just to complicated to implement if drivers struggle with a red light. It's the exact same argument with the pit lane being closed and running out of fuel. They had to do it because drivers like Alonso in brazil, were rushing back through an accident zone and risking lives. So now to assure it doesn't happen the pit lane is closed until they all are in line.
Racing drivers just cant be trusted
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Craig. wrote
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Because if a driver can't see a red light what makes you think they'll see a car that might be coming up onto the side of them. It's okay to say stay on the side of the track but how do you define where that ends, and what if the accident is right at the exit to the pit lane? I like the idea but it's just to complicated to implement if drivers struggle with a red light. It's the exact same argument with the pit lane being closed and running out of fuel. They had to do it because drivers like Alonso in brazil, were rushing back through an accident zone and risking lives. So now to assure it doesn't happen the pit lane is closed until they all are in line.
Racing drivers just cant be trusted
Maybe a marshal with a big red lollipop in a clown outfit would stand out for them
It works for the pit crews (except the clown outfit)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU4FPqtCGy0
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU4FPqtCGy0
The probability of cocking up is directly proportional to the number of people watching and in this case, a couple of million F1 fans
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Craig. wrote
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/68181
Wonder when his brain will kick in and tell him its a good idea to keep your mouth shut when you've just screwed up.
What else can he say? I wouldnt expect anything less. Hes not going to say 'ive lost this race because i made a silly mistake, im depressed, im de-motivated, whats the point in going on, im sulking round the back of the garage, etc,etc...'
In motorsport surely confidence and motivation are everything.
Magny-Cours will be for once an interesting race
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I think what would have been better would have been a humble approach.
Saying he expects to be able to fight it out with the others. BMW wont talk about being title contenders despite leading one of them and being close in the other. Ferrari still say they respect and are wary of the challenge the other teams pose despite a 20 odd point lead over Mclaren and having won the most races this year.
I've got no problem if he says, oh we can win the races that are coming up, but to say he will be unstoppable is just stupid. He's only won 2 of 7 races so far.
He'll have the 10 place drop in Magny cours which will give him an excuse for that. The race I think that will define the season is Silverstone.
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The results from Canada..... a week late
Sorry, I've been a bit busy with the new house and all that..
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LOL - Wonder who will be brave enough to go for a Hamilton win in France????
I think it could be on personaly!!!
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