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May 31st, 2008 at 12:27pm

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I just got a new ASUS Rampage Formula and this board ROCKS over my Gigabyte P35-DS4, mainly because of the BIOS settings I now have.  I get the same 3.6 GHz out of my Q6600, but now I can choose my tRD among so many other settings!  I've got 2Gb of my Transcend Axeram running at DDR2 1000, 4-4-4-12, tRD 5;  Memtest86+ stable for over 8hr.  I'm striving for the DDR2 sweet spot and I think I'm almost there.  

Here is an Everest run:

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1) I was wondering if a 1N command rate is possible at this point?  If so, how?
2) I'm at 1.55v MCH, I'm safe here, right?
3) At FSB 400, I've set NB and CPU GTL ref. voltages both at .67x as per the advice I've read online.  Is this correct, or should they be set back to AUTO (because I'm not pushing high FSB)?
4) I have almost complete control over my memory subtimings now.  Is there any advice on further settings I should make?

Thanks for the help.

-Jim


 

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Mushkin Redline DDR3 1600
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Reply #1 - May 31st, 2008 at 9:00pm

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1. Who knows.. try it and see. But I doubt it

2. That value depends on the memory product itself so I can not say for sure however 1.55 is typically ok. You need to check with the memory company on exact limits

3. The CPU GTL is a factor of VTT or FSB Termination Voltage. The NB GTL is a factor of the NB Voltage. It is sometimes needed to run stable however if it will run stable on AUTO it is best left there. If not stable then use the feature however the dangerous voltages to change are CPU PLL and FSB Termination. If you change those and include the GTL multipler you can fry a proc without it ever getting hot or close to max temp.

If it will run AUTO stable, put them on auto. If not set them back

4. Nope, a 400FSB CAS 4 clock at 1000 and tRD5 is in the hot zone. The only better you can do is 1T and I doubt it will do that with tRD5. Since you have established a correctly defined hot-clock, every FSB higher than 400 will deliver 2x the punch but will also become more and more unstable very quickly.

The only other possibility would be a 450MHz x8 clock on the same memory speed and timing with a 333MHz strap but I think you must have 1200 memory to do that so you are probably maxed out now.

Keep in mind.. components must break in so you may become unstable and not be able to run those numbers in a few weeks time. Its the luck of the draw in that respect

speaking of hot clocks.. check out the latency on this bad boy


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Reply #2 - May 31st, 2008 at 11:41pm

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Yeah, I knew your numbers would blow mine away even before I posted! Grin

It's Acedemic now, I flew around in FSX for a while and even though things were nice & clear, I used as much as 1.99Gb during that flight (Extra 300 in San Diego).  So I decided to go back to my Corsair 2 x 2Gb sticks.  Now I have to run @ DDR2 1000, cas5 and tRD6.  I haven't been able to even POST with tRD5. 

I never could get 1N to work, POST was fine but always errors in memtest on test #5.  I tried a couple CMD clock skew settings but gave up.

My numbers w/these settings now are around 8800/7100/8000 mb/s and 57ns memory; and 3.5ns L2 cache.  I'm still playing around though.  My ass is sore from sitting down reading & running stability tests all day. Cheesy

I don't know what these Corsair Dom's will do, I haven't pushed vDIMM beyond 2.1v yet, as per specs.

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Reply #3 - Jun 1st, 2008 at 3:45pm

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raptorx wrote on May 31st, 2008 at 11:41pm:
Yeah, I knew your numbers would blow mine away even before I posted! Grin

It's Acedemic now, I flew around in FSX for a while and even though things were nice & clear, I used as much as 1.99Gb during that flight (Extra 300 in San Diego).  So I decided to go back to my Corsair 2 x 2Gb sticks.  Now I have to run @ DDR2 1000, cas5 and tRD6.  I haven't been able to even POST with tRD5.  

I never could get 1N to work, POST was fine but always errors in memtest on test #5.  I tried a couple CMD clock skew settings but gave up.

My numbers w/these settings now are around 8800/7100/8000 mb/s and 57ns memory; and 3.5ns L2 cache.  I'm still playing around though.  My ass is sore from sitting down reading & running stability tests all day. Cheesy

I don't know what these Corsair Dom's will do, I haven't pushed vDIMM beyond 2.1v yet, as per specs.

-Jim



You know the sick thing about those numbers in my run?

Thats a 1 year old P35 DDR3 motherboard running just over default memory speed

When you get up inot the DDR3 1800+ range.. "Hot-spot" CL and 1T are not as important or needed because of the bandwidth but its really nice when you can get 1T @ CL and tRD. The lowest tRD you can get with CL8 is 6 so when you can pop 1T and MCH RD 6 @ 1800 on CL8 2X2GB ... they sing

You do not want to see the DDR3 x48 overclock result


LOL!!!

Typically you can go a touch (.1) volt higher than spec with Corsair if you have the fan module running without any problem
 
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Reply #4 - Aug 18th, 2008 at 1:59am

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I would like to know from Nick and Jim what extra cooling (if any) they
use on the mobo chip and memory
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Reply #5 - Aug 18th, 2008 at 12:10pm

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My case has a side panel with 3-120mm fans blowing directly on the motherboard & memory.  that and 3 other case fans (1 intake, 2 exhaust) keep things cool enough.   Cool

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Reply #6 - Aug 18th, 2008 at 2:22pm

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Thank you Jim
 
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Reply #7 - Aug 18th, 2008 at 6:27pm

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None

I always remove the heatpipes, sand down the tops of the components it touches and then applty thermal epoxy and glue that unit solid to the chipset and the power transistors of the best heat conductor possible and then simply make sure the tower has at least 1 80mm (min) side fan blowing directly at the motherboard and at least 1 120mm expelling air out the rear


The issues with heat on the Rampage Extreme and other boards of its class are associated with the chipset and 4GB+ of memory and a quad core processor overclocked. The issue is the 4GB and the penny quad cores


 
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Reply #8 - Aug 20th, 2008 at 12:37am

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Thanks Nick
Just wanted to confirm that every thing could be kept cool without any liquid
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