wreckerman wrote on May 18^th, 2008 at 1:38pm:


wreckerman wrote on May 18^th, 2008 at 2:30pm:




Sorry I don't speak english

So You can do what you want with designer's work?  That MDL was well encrypted in a code only readable by MSFS , some people has handle to break this code

Microsoft did this  to protect what you claim to be something that you can do what you want? ......


I will see what other would have to say about this thread..... 

wreckerman wrote on May 18^th, 2008 at 7:40pm:


Except Redistribute an add on with your "FIXES" WITHOUT the approve of the designer..



Why don't you made your own planes instead messing with others work?..

You said it your self people don't like that
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Avoid this

I am shortly to release my first model

I say this

It's mine I made it and no one will mess with it

No excuses.....leave it alone..

Simple really

I'd rather see people go along with the designers wishes

If it says don't touch then that should be enough

Problem is these things are tolerated.

Anyone who interferes should be treated with the contempt they deserve

My first model has taken over a year on and off.....not constant and I don't see why anyone should not be just grateful for that.

It has been very difficult to get details for.

When it is released it will as I want it.

These folks should just make their own but maybe they can't

It's easy to pick something up and make changes

I wouldn't class what wreckerman & his colleagues have been doing as piracy. In an ideal world they would get written approval from the original author(s) before posting any modifications or updates. This is not how it works in the real world. Providing the original author is properly credited I really don't see what all the fuss is about.

Before anyone says anything, I've contributed my fair share to the Freeware community over the last few years. I still find my old files posted on numerous sites all over the world & feel flattered that people think they're worth posting. I've made it clear in the Readme that if anyone wants to modify them they have my full consent to do so. They don't need my permission but it would be nice if they ask. This is what I consider the spirit of true Freeware.

I've also been the victim of piracy where unscrupulous people have claimed credit for my work & made money out of it by selling it on a CD. While I find this upsetting there's nothing I can do about it. The only way to prevent it is not to post the files in the first place.

Alejandro Rhodes wrote on May 19^th, 2008 at 3:34pm:

Indeed not. This is where I think wreckerman is wrong. Freeware developers are under no obligation to update their files to work in later versions of FS. I'm talking about proper updates, not quick fixes that might not be fully compatible. Some might not wish to do the extra work or not have the knowledge to do so. Others, like me, don't have the latest version, FSX in this case, so it would not be possible. If respected developers like Rick Piper, Milton Schupe, & Bill Lyons decide to update their old models for FSX they will be proper updates done in their own good time without the help of amateur tweakers.

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I don't think anyone is messing with the MDL files. They are simply converting FS9 aircraft to work in FSX. Anyone can do this quite easily (you've done it yourself Alex) but some people don't have the knowledge or ability to do so. Many of the files posted in the FSX sections of this site are converted FS9 models. I wonder how many of the people doing these "conversions" got permission from the original authors before uploading them.

garryrussell wrote on May 19^th, 2008 at 4:06pm:

Quite & I think hope that most people would have the decency to ask before uploading any modifications.

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You can say Yes or No & possibly point out mistakes. I still say you have no control over what anyone does with files you posted as Freeware & shouldn't expect it. Nobody forced you to do all that work or upload the finished article for general use. That was your choice. As I said before, the only way to prevent this is by not posting the files in the first place.

Alejandro Rhodes wrote on May 19^th, 2008 at 4:50pm:

Yes, I remember. You can listen but be careful as I have my own strong opinions on this subject. Many would disagree with me.

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Don't mention it* old chap.

*That means "You're welcome".

wreckerman wrote on May 18^th, 2008 at 2:30pm:



Just a little info about US copyright laws:

"Do I have to register with your office to be protected?
No. In general, registration is voluntary. Copyright exists from the moment the work is created. You will have to register, however, if you wish to bring a lawsuit for infringement of a U.S. work."



Lawfully copied from this link:

http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-general.html#mywork

what is your problem dude ? You have something against Looks like you hate them,..

you can't do what you want , are you blind? can you see your causing here is people feel anger about you..your acting like a perfect troll

What do you really want ? what are your intentions here ?

Interesting thread.
I am new to the whole Flight Sim thing.  I got enough flying for a living (Capt on F-28 and then CRJ), and never thought to play with pretend aircraft in my time off.  Then I was on med leave for four years (broken back), and thought of using Flight Sim as a training aid.  The version of the CRJ that I happened to come across just had the generic cockpit and was useless.  I next happened across the BD-5J simulation designed by K. Johnson.  That aircraft was the coolest thing going when I was learning to fly.  OK… I downloaded it.  Next I learned about FSEdit.  WOW!!!  I deleted the instruments and put in the glass cockpit form the Lear, doubled the thrust and started contour flying in the Rockys.  At full speed with double thrust, the BD-5J would loose aileron control and run into Mach tuck problems.  I got on a news group to ask how I could modify it, maybe sweep the wings, and got the kind of response I am seeing here.  “Make your own” they said as I was being flamed!
OH, OK, never thought about those things.
So looking around the Flight Sim disks one day -  “what’s this GMax program I see here???
Fast forward a year and I just uploaded my first shareware aircraft a few weeks ago.  It is flyable to the point where a person could have lots of fun with it, but it still needs the virtual cockpit (having problems with that one), and I am still trying to get clean textures mapped to the right places.  The flight dynamics also could use some cleaning up.

So to the point… “getting designers to fix their own planes”  I think there are a number of designers who may as well be pro, are very good at what they do, and their designs would be considered correct, and not “needing fixing”.  For the rest of us, we know dam well that our design needs work, it is an evolving entity as we gain knowledge, and rather than someone arrogantly pointing the finger, they could help solve the discrepancies.
Also, I would think that someone changing my aircraft for personal use is absolutely fine.  In fact, a Flight Simmer from South America has already contacted me and with my help, we adjusted the dynamics so it flies slower, more in line with his ability to handle it.
As for people steeling my work, it’s going to happen so although I am not fine with it – “What ever”.  To the people modifying my aircraft, please tell me what you did, I may want to incorporated your changes.

Harold
www.dickert.ca/swift