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Reply #15 - Aug 3rd, 2008 at 5:53pm

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Here's your "new guy" question for the day:

Why use outside software for ND, PFD, EICAS? Isn't it all built-in to FSX?

I am watching my son fly the PMDG 747-4 and he can pull up the individual screens and drag them to another monitor attached to the graphic card.

Why use the others?
 

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Reply #16 - Aug 3rd, 2008 at 7:12pm

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Some cockpit builders do this, but for the sake of performance the multi-pc setup with the external gauges is optimum
 

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Reply #17 - Aug 4th, 2008 at 12:48am

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Hey, can I see a photo from behind showing the monitor mounts, wiring, etc.? That would be a big help.

Thanks for all the other photos too. Now it's even more daunting!  Wink

When I saw the first photo in the thread, the entire assembly looked to be made of metal. Is it MDF? If so, what size?

Did you cut and make the various boxes yourself or can these be found pre-made?
 

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Reply #18 - Aug 4th, 2008 at 12:49am

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JSpahn wrote on Aug 3rd, 2008 at 7:12pm:
Some cockpit builders do this, but for the sake of performance the multi-pc setup with the external gauges is optimum

Is it possible to use the included gauges within FSX on another computer via network much like I would with the external pay/freeware?

I guess another benefit of using GoFlight, Sim-Avionics, Ellie, etc, would be that the gauges are always in the correct position behind the panel masks. I guess you would have to drag the FSX gauges each time. Correct?
 

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Reply #19 - Aug 4th, 2008 at 3:46am

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Gosh what a lot of questions   Grin

I use third party gauges because they're controllable and you get more with them. For example my with my Ellie stuff I can use software to insert V speeds on the speed tape, on the ND I can use switches to show or hide the flightplan, scroll through it's waypoints, show TCAS traffic, display (fake) weather maps and all of it's dedicated software so I can scale it to fit my glass cockpit monitors without loosing resolution or taking a performance hit. And of course I can run them across a network on a second PC without having to install FSX on it.

As for the construction it's all wood - I simply can't afford the tools and equipment to build it from metal and if I did it would have to be alluminium which is a sod to paint. I used 6mm MDF for the panels and pedestal with battons to brace it where needed. The individual switch panels are hardboard so I can lift them out to work on the switches and LEDs.

There, that's destroyed the illusion hasn't it  Wink

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Reply #20 - Aug 4th, 2008 at 10:38am

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Oh no, the illusion is still perfect! Sorry for all the questions. I just got excited when I saw your cockpit because it is exactly what I hope our pit will look like.

I would like to see behind too.

We are starting with Captain side only to start. The photos of your early sim gives me a great place to start.

Have you seen this FMC: http://www.simw.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=dsp_product_details&pid=2023

Thoughts?
 

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Reply #21 - Aug 5th, 2008 at 10:36am

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Yeah id love to fly with that cockpit..
To bad all I have so far on my list to but is yoke, throttle, and the SECM and 2 switches and buttons..

Just A question why is the seat you use on the right and not the left..
 
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Reply #22 - Aug 5th, 2008 at 11:30am

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Hehe - coz the captain's seat spends most of it's time in the other room in front of my office computer!!

I'm looking at buying some dedicated chairs for the cockpit...

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Reply #23 - Aug 11th, 2008 at 12:53pm

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BAW19 wrote on Aug 5th, 2008 at 11:30am:
Hehe - coz the captain's seat spends most of it's time in the other room in front of my office computer!!

I'm looking at buying some dedicated chairs for the cockpit...

Best!

Ian


Ian,

I got my seat (my pit models the captain's side only) from the car wrecking yard.  It is from a Ford Winstar van.  Cheap, nicely adjustable, and sort of looks like the real thing.

best,

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Reply #24 - Aug 11th, 2008 at 1:25pm

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Hi John!
Funnily enough I've been looking at car seats recently. Haven't made made up my mind yet but I want some that look like the real thing which excludes quite a few!

You might be interested in this: I just took delivery of a pair of Aurasound speakers. I'd originally bought a Buttkicker Gamer but now I have two seats I needed another one. The guys at the Shaker Centre told me I couldn't simply add a spare Buttkicker as it would blow it's amp so I got a pair of Aurasounds and both seats rock!! If anything it' better because the bolt to the underside of the seat so the vibration is direct, if you see what I mean!

Back from overseas yet?
All the best

Ian
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Reply #25 - Aug 11th, 2008 at 3:06pm

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BAW19 wrote on Aug 11th, 2008 at 1:25pm:
Hi John!
Funnily enough I've been looking at car seats recently. Haven't made made up my mind yet but I want some that look like the real thing which excludes quite a few!

You might be interested in this: I just took delivery of a pair of Aurasound speakers. I'd originally bought a Buttkicker Gamer but now I have two seats I needed another one. The guys at the Shaker Centre told me I couldn't simply add a spare Buttkicker as it would blow it's amp so I got a pair of Aurasounds and both seats rock!! If anything it' better because the bolt to the underside of the seat so the vibration is direct, if you see what I mean!

Back from overseas yet?
All the best

Ian


Ian,

Yup.....got back day before yesterday in the wee wee hours.  American connection after an ahead of schedule JAL Narita to Kennedy srrival ..... American was 2 hours delayed (surprise surprise!).

I have had the the Aura Bass Shakers (a pair) hooked to my captains seat for quite a while.  Bolted to the frame that holds the car seat.  Amazing.

As to blowing the amp....... if the impedence is matched.... shouldn't blow it.  And I find I run VERY low power.  Otherwise I am bouncing around so much that I can't hold the yoke  Wink  Shocked  Grin.  

I want to write a VB6 driver for the audio that somehow converts turbulance movements of the aircraft in the sim to ultra low frequency sound... so that the seat will at least vibrate when the aircraft kets kicked around.  As close as I'll get to a full motion pit.

best,

................john

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Reply #26 - Aug 11th, 2008 at 3:32pm

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We think alike! I experimented with this and found the best results came from finding thunder/wind/rumble sounds and tweaking the wav files themselves in Audacity (freeware!) then saving them as new files. Once I had them just right I wrote a VB program to monitor speed etc, play them as loops and adjust the volume relative to the airspeed. I have it configured to add rumbles for Spoiler deployments, landing gear deployment, 4 types of turbulence and a subtle airframe vibration that slowly dies as the engines spool down.
Happy to send you the code but it's a mess!
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Reply #27 - Aug 29th, 2008 at 11:58pm

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That's a truly awesome pit mate!! good job!!

i was impressed when you said you spent only around 6000 quid on it... when FSX came out here in Brazil, they setup a flight pit that looked just like yours in one store, as a marketing thing... i sat around there and talked to the guys who built it and they told me they had spent like 150,000 BRL (roughly 100,000 US dollars) on their rig...  Shocked Shocked yes... that much!!

actually... now that i think of it... taxes are so unbelievably high ( Angry ) in brazil, that it kinda makes sense why they spent so much... it takes a lot of hardware and expensive software to pull off a build like this, and nothing is more overpriced in brazil than computer stuff...

anyways, they weren't cutting any corners there, it was a full pit based on the PMDG 737 and using project magenta gauges... but even that wouldn't explain the absurd amount they spent...

well, i won't ramble any longer... truly awesome work there, honest!!
i wish i was you right now  Wink

Cheers

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Reply #28 - Sep 22nd, 2008 at 4:59am

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Hi,

I am very impressed about your HBC. You really built a great Cockpit...
 
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