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Apr 29^th, 2008 at 2:15pm

Fozzer Offline
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Life extension for Windows XP:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7370821.stm

Paul.... Cool

Cool

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Dell Dimension 5000 BTX Tower. Win7 Home Edition, 32 Bit. Intel Pentium 4, dual 2.8 GHz. 2.5GB RAM, nVidia GF 9500GT 1GB. SATA 500GB + 80GB. Philips 17" LCD Monitor. Micronet ADSL Modem only. Saitek Cyborg Evo Force. FS 2004 + FSX. Briggs and Stratton Petrol Lawn Mower...Motor Bikes. Gas Cooker... and lots of musical instruments!.... ...!
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Reply #1 - Apr 29^th, 2008 at 3:18pm

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Thank gosh...
Everyone that I have met that has ever used Vista says it sucks and performs horribly...
Here is the #1 reason why it is getting so much negative feedback...
Computer manufacturers are putting the junkiest equipment in your system and attempting to put Vista in it...(as all people that know 1 cent about computers already know)
For example; My sister just got a laptop (used, about four months old loaded with Vista 32bit) and has the following specs...
AMD single core at 1.8GHz
1gb of slow DDR2 RAM
80Gb HD
integrated graphics...
Vista uses .98 GBs (33% of my 3Gbs currently installed) of RAM and I have 190Gbs free of my 320Gb HD (mind you this computer is 6 months old) and Vista was totally eating my integrated graphics until I got my 8800GT...I love Vista! So easy to use...just UAC is bad.
Well I guess what I've been trying to say (because I'm not very good at spitting words out) is that Vista is for high performance ONLY (unless you suck it up and admit to the ugly classic Windows)...go run your programs from 2004 on a computer from 2004 and everyone else can move on...
Though people will still complain, XP is there...get it and shush.
The Gexpheliology Theory of Me - The world will stop spinning and the sun will burn out the instant they discontinue XP.

Edit: Glad to see that "Downgrade" option though...hopefully people will see that.

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Reply #2 - Apr 29^th, 2008 at 6:31pm

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Wow XP is a real survival expert Cheesy

Cheesy

We must keep it on the shelves as long as possible. Wink

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Reply #3 - May 1^st, 2008 at 12:38pm

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XP for me is still the best thing that microsoft ever produced

it hardly crashes, it's fairly a lightweight system (even ancient machines with 256 ram can run it) it's compatible with pretty much everything and it doesnt suck the blood out of your new top-notch rig like vista does

i will be not getting vista. ever. period.

vista is a failed attempt to make a beatiful OS that will turn your hi-end pc into a 486, so the end customer is obligated to spend the big bucks to run it like XP did with a quarter of the required hardware

Microsoft's philosophy when they created the CPU hogging features of Vista was that it didn't matter if the system was such a heavy burden on the computer, because the upcoming hardware would be able to handle it (this is a true story)

although it is true that a top-notch computer can run vista and still spare a few CPU cycles to run a game or something other the OS itself, the problem remains... when one buys a top-notch rig. one expects this new and shining computer to perform outstandingly, where as with Vista, one only gets a mediocre performance, making the whole point of having this top-grade computer useless, since you could get the same performance on a much cheaper pc running XP

so no, i will stick with XP for now, thanks

and i'm glad that more people are now sharing my line of thought, and the Vista hype is over

oh, and for those that really like that Vista look, there are Vista skins for WinXP available for download that'll make it look just like the real thing... Grin

Grin

Grin

Grin

(that's the only way you'd ever see me using vista Grin

Grin

)

Cheers

HarvesteR -- using WindowsXP SP2

Cheesy

NEW PC SPECS: Intel Core i7 920 - 6GB Corsair DDR3 PC12800 RAM- Intel DX58SO Mobo - Geforce GTX 460 768MB GDDR5 - 3x LG1952h LCDs through Matrox's TH2Go - 640GB Seagate Barracuda 7200Rpm - 200GB Maxtor 7200Rpm - Microsoft Sidewinder X6 Keyboard - 5.1 Surround and a Saitek X52 Pro and Pro Flight Rudder Pedals -- Running Windows 7 Ultimate x64

My 8800 GTX has at last retired... may it rest in peace in GPU heaven.

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Reply #4 - May 1^st, 2008 at 5:29pm

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HarvesteR wrote on May 1^st, 2008 at 12:38pm:

XP for me is still the best thing that microsoft ever produced

it hardly crashes, it's fairly a lightweight system (even ancient machines with 256 ram can run it) it's compatible with pretty much everything and it doesnt suck the blood out of your new top-notch rig like vista does

i will be not getting vista. ever. period.

vista is a failed attempt to make a beatiful OS that will turn your hi-end pc into a 486, so the end customer is obligated to spend the big bucks to run it like XP did with a quarter of the required hardware

Microsoft's philosophy when they created the CPU hogging features of Vista was that it didn't matter if the system was such a heavy burden on the computer, because the upcoming hardware would be able to handle it (this is a true story)

although it is true that a top-notch computer can run vista and still spare a few CPU cycles to run a game or something other the OS itself, the problem remains... when one buys a top-notch rig. one expects this new and shining computer to perform outstandingly, where as with Vista, one only gets a mediocre performance, making the whole point of having this top-grade computer useless, since you could get the same performance on a much cheaper pc running XP

so no, i will stick with XP for now, thanks

and i'm glad that more people are now sharing my line of thought, and the Vista hype is over

oh, and for those that really like that Vista look, there are Vista skins for WinXP available for download that'll make it look just like the real thing... Grin

Grin

Grin

Grin

(that's the only way you'd ever see me using vista Grin

Grin

)

Cheers

HarvesteR -- using WindowsXP SP2

Have you ever used Vista? Hopefully you have eitherwise you have no say in the arguement about Vista. Hopefully (if you have used Vista) that you didn't upgrade to Vista or buy a computer with Vista before larger amounts of RAM and better CPU's were becoming standard. And hopefully you have also tried using Vista SP1.
My CPU stays at 0% while at idle. Not a CPU hogger at all. It IS a RAM hogger though which is why 3-4GBs of RAM is becoming standard on most computers nowadays. Vista is very nice looking, easy to use, and runs games just great! Not a single problem (except with my printer but that was fixed with SP1 Tongue

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Reply #5 - May 3^rd, 2008 at 7:25am

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If you have a fast, multi-core computer, and lots of RAM... and know how go to through the services to set your computer up for the way you use it; Vista (64-bit) runs complex software (like MSFS) faster than XP.

The biggest thorn in Vista's side right now (especially 64-bit), is the hardware companies (drivers).

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Reply #6 - May 3^rd, 2008 at 1:20pm

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i have used vista before, on several different computers... and it just doesn't work for me...
the reason i dislike vista so bad, is not because i wouldn't be able to use it... as gaming enthusiasts, you and me know perfectly well how to setup an OS so it runs better, how to disable those annoying features that pop up, and what kind of hardware we're required to have in order to make to whole thing functional...

what aggravates me, is what i see is happening to the more casual users, which are unknowingly buying pcs that are struggling to run vista on a single core CPU and 512 RAM... these people (most people btw) don't share the same interest in computer stuff as we do, and are mostly fooled by the vista logo on the box, thinking 'hey, if it has this new windows, it's probably a great computer'... which it's not... and i've seen this happen... more than once...

that's what makes me so mad about vista... it is not a user-friendly system, although it claim to be... you NEED to be familiar with computers and hardware to be able to use it well, or else it's just too sluggish... and that's really the opposite of Microsoft's selling point for this OS, which claimed it would be easier to use and to learn...

short story: my grandfather, who is really not a computer expert, got a new laptop with vista... he had me revert it back to XP, since he couldn't use it, so slow it was... and i must point out that this laptop, was 3 times more powerful than his old pc than ran xp... now with xp installed, the laptop is 4 times faster than before and he's using it happily...

so it didn't matter that vista had a more intuitive interface and better looking graphics... it was so slow, that it wasn't usable

that's the kind of stuff that makes me dislike vista so bad

Cheers

HarvesteR

Cheesy

NEW PC SPECS: Intel Core i7 920 - 6GB Corsair DDR3 PC12800 RAM- Intel DX58SO Mobo - Geforce GTX 460 768MB GDDR5 - 3x LG1952h LCDs through Matrox's TH2Go - 640GB Seagate Barracuda 7200Rpm - 200GB Maxtor 7200Rpm - Microsoft Sidewinder X6 Keyboard - 5.1 Surround and a Saitek X52 Pro and Pro Flight Rudder Pedals -- Running Windows 7 Ultimate x64

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Reply #7 - May 3^rd, 2008 at 4:45pm

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You just about said it there HarvesteR

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Reply #8 - May 3^rd, 2008 at 5:07pm

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The problem with vista is that it doesnt really offer a lot for the companies to use, and no manufacturer wants to jump on the bandwagon. microsoft anounced that there fasing vista out and are putting a new product on the market next year to stay ahead of the competion, if they still can.

http://white-line.org/&&;

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Reply #9 - May 3^rd, 2008 at 5:26pm

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pepper_airborne wrote on May 3^rd, 2008 at 5:07pm:

The problem with vista is that it doesnt really offer a lot for the companies to use, and no manufacturer wants to jump on the bandwagon. microsoft anounced that there fasing vista out and are putting a new product on the market next year to stay ahead of the competion, if they still can.

Vista for Business was a bust. I've heard the next operating system could possible charge you monthly fees for what you want to use. But that is just a rumor.

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Reply #10 - May 6^th, 2008 at 9:50am

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Companies already do that anyway, they book away a certain amount of money monthly as part of the OS.

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Reply #11 - May 6^th, 2008 at 2:20pm

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*hugs my vista*

I'm never going back to those dark ages Tongue

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Reply #12 - May 6^th, 2008 at 4:06pm

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machineman9 wrote on May 6^th, 2008 at 2:20pm:

*hugs my vista*

I'm never going back to those dark ages Tongue

Tongue

I love the "Dark Ages"...

I always have my Win XP SP2 displaying in "Classic Mode"....Win '98SE... Kiss

Kiss

...!

Paul...With Roman Numerals... Cool

Cool

...!

Dell Dimension 5000 BTX Tower. Win7 Home Edition, 32 Bit. Intel Pentium 4, dual 2.8 GHz. 2.5GB RAM, nVidia GF 9500GT 1GB. SATA 500GB + 80GB. Philips 17" LCD Monitor. Micronet ADSL Modem only. Saitek Cyborg Evo Force. FS 2004 + FSX. Briggs and Stratton Petrol Lawn Mower...Motor Bikes. Gas Cooker... and lots of musical instruments!.... ...!
Yamaha MO6,MM6,DX7,DX11,DX21,DX100,MK100,EMT10,PSR400,PSS780,Roland GW-8L v2,TR505,Casio MT-205,Korg CX3v2 dual manual,+ Leslie 760,M-Audio Prokeys88,KeyRig,Cubase,Keyfax4,Guitars,Orchestral,Baroque,Renaissance,Medieval Instruments.

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Reply #13 - May 6^th, 2008 at 6:23pm

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I remember adopting XP a few years back and recently I got my hands on a Vista laptop.

I have to agree that XP is the best OS microsoft ever put out, never crashes and it plays nice with my hardware. Is it perfect, not at all but it doesn't require the latest and greatest in hardware to run either.

Vista, well at least on this "new" laptop does not run well at all especially since it was designed to run vista. What makes me scratch my head is did Microsoft think Businesses would start buying into super high end PC's just to check email and do some word processing? Just imagine trying to run that resource pig lotus notes Shocked

Shocked

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My 2
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Reply #14 - May 7^th, 2008 at 2:42am

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Having crates of PC Games filling my bedrooms up, dating back over ten years, I get a bit worried about up dating my operating system...Win 5, '98. 98SE, XP, (Vista?), regarding compatibility... Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

...!

Vista would give me even more problems!

Even now, I often have to Boot up my second Hard Drive with its Win '98SE operating system, and re-install my old 3DFX Voodoo Graphics cards, to be able run many of my lovely "old" Games.. Shocked

Shocked

...!

Most/all of my favourite games date back many years ago, so I have to be very cautious when/if upgrading Operating Systems, Graphics Cards, etc... Wink

Wink

...!

Paul....Doom and Gloom...and Duke Nukem 3D!... Grin

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Dell Dimension 5000 BTX Tower. Win7 Home Edition, 32 Bit. Intel Pentium 4, dual 2.8 GHz. 2.5GB RAM, nVidia GF 9500GT 1GB. SATA 500GB + 80GB. Philips 17" LCD Monitor. Micronet ADSL Modem only. Saitek Cyborg Evo Force. FS 2004 + FSX. Briggs and Stratton Petrol Lawn Mower...Motor Bikes. Gas Cooker... and lots of musical instruments!.... ...!
Yamaha MO6,MM6,DX7,DX11,DX21,DX100,MK100,EMT10,PSR400,PSS780,Roland GW-8L v2,TR505,Casio MT-205,Korg CX3v2 dual manual,+ Leslie 760,M-Audio Prokeys88,KeyRig,Cubase,Keyfax4,Guitars,Orchestral,Baroque,Renaissance,Medieval Instruments.

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