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Reply #180 - Nov 29th, 2008 at 12:18pm

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whats true is you should not listen to people who are clueless

Vsync will lock frames from exceeding the monitors refresh rate no matter what the frame loack is set to but on the flip side it removes tears and jitters in the image

The advice those people give is from running 3DMark in which Vsync locked reduces the score and they assume its a performace change when in fact performance is the same and they are simply enabling a frame throttle based on the monitors refresh rate to maintian image quality


crowned idiots..  every one of them who post that



the 3DMark score is based on how many frames get fired per test sequence not image quality. The test could care less if the image looks like crap which is why its usless for telling anyone anything



Although if one knows how to really use 3DMark and other benchmarks it can give some information about a system however for the most part and to most people, 3Dmark is designed to sell hardware



There are more complete nonsense rumors around computers and perf on the net than good information, especially around MSFS
 
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Reply #181 - Nov 30th, 2008 at 2:32am

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Hi Nick,

thanks again for your quick clearing - and a bit angry (not to me but of those "experts") - answer. I know from some of your former answers those "experts" are a kind of "red shirt" (in german we say "rotes Tuch") for you (and probably for all really experts).
Thanks also for your explanation, so I´ve learned again a little bit more.
Have a nice time
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Reply #182 - Nov 30th, 2008 at 2:41am

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I´ve forgotten to mention, the single-display-perf-mode is better for my system than the multi-display-perf-mode. I mean to notice a slight decrease of frame-rate and the micro-stutters I have (if thats one) are always the same which kind of settings I ever use.
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Reply #183 - Nov 30th, 2008 at 8:25am

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Just to add a follow up Nick to my crashing problems with the 3GB switch using 2x 2GB of RAM with XP 32bit SP3......eveything has been 100% perfect now I switched back to 2 1GB sticks of RAM and removed the 3GB switch command in the boot.ini file.

As a warning to anyone suffering the same problems as I did.....I'm running a Q6600 with a GTX 260 with driver 177.92.

Everything great until I stuck in 2 2GB sticks of Corsair RAM...and used the 3GB switch.

Tried everything to stop the resulting hangs...BSODS etc. All my other games were perfectly okay - so fundamentally, I deduce from that that the hardware per se, was just fine.

It appears that FSX may not like that particular setup. Or maybe it's just me !

Going to try the latest drivers again now...as I went back to the older one's thinking that was the problem.

So use the 3GB switch on XP 32, with caution. Be aware that if you have problems it may be...I say MAY be, the 2x2GB of physical RAM in your system - it was for me.
 
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Reply #184 - Nov 30th, 2008 at 8:46am

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aeugli wrote on Nov 30th, 2008 at 2:32am:
Hi Nick,

thanks again for your quick clearing - and a bit angry (not to me but of those "experts") - answer. I know from some of your former answers those "experts" are a kind of "red shirt" (in german we say "rotes Tuch") for you (and probably for all really experts).
Thanks also for your explanation, so I´ve learned again a little bit more.
Have a nice time
Cheers Rainer



LOL

Naaaa.. not angry at anyone

I said it with a smile   Smiley
 
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Reply #185 - Nov 30th, 2008 at 8:55am

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GabethePilot wrote on Nov 30th, 2008 at 8:25am:
Just to add a follow up Nick to my crashing problems with the 3GB switch using 2x 2GB of RAM with XP 32bit SP3......eveything has been 100% perfect now I switched back to 2 1GB sticks of RAM and removed the 3GB switch command in the boot.ini file.

As a warning to anyone suffering the same problems as I did.....I'm running a Q6600 with a GTX 260 with driver 177.92.

Everything great until I stuck in 2 2GB sticks of Corsair RAM...and used the 3GB switch.

Tried everything to stop the resulting hangs...BSODS etc. All my other games were perfectly okay - so fundamentally, I deduce from that that the hardware per se, was just fine.

It appears that FSX may not like that particular setup. Or maybe it's just me !

Going to try the latest drivers again now...as I went back to the older one's thinking that was the problem.

So use the 3GB switch on XP 32, with caution. Be aware that if you have problems it may be...I say MAY be, the 2x2GB of physical RAM in your system - it was for me.


Most should not have any problem using the switch however there can be exceptions. Most of those will lead back to some type of hardware issue in place

There can be advantages to applying the address space switch when running FSX SP2 and larger memory video cards without more than 2GB installed. The advantage is not in frames.
 
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Reply #186 - Dec 1st, 2008 at 2:00pm

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Hey, I was wondering, about clearing out the Temp folder.

Would the same go for Vista users, but the User / AppData / Local / Temp folder?

I'm a little hesitant about deleting all that.

And is there any performance gain to be had, if .NET Framework 2.0 was installed?

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Reply #187 - Dec 1st, 2008 at 7:28pm

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you can flush your temp folders just not the prefetch

and Net Framework is for program support like Nhancer. There is no performance gained from it
 
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Reply #188 - Dec 2nd, 2008 at 9:37am

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Eeeeeehhh.... prefetch? (sorry! Grin)
 
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Reply #189 - Dec 3rd, 2008 at 8:08am

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Hello Nick,

 I am preparing to get the AV you have recommended,and for a while now I have been using the AVG/spybot freeware combo for protection, my question is, will this new AV software do the job of both, or do I need to keep the spybot?

And one other small thing, I have my processes in the task manager knocked down to 38 when running my sims, I'm sure that will go lower after the AV switch, as a lot of them seem to be AVG related, I was wondering if you had posted a list anywhere of what is mandatory to leave running when simming. My system was built by me and I installed the OS so I know there is no OEM junk running around in here.
This is what currently runs when I sim, the ones with the red marks beside them are turned off when I fly,  I just had them running for the purpose of taking and posting this.

http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/ScreenHunter_2Dec.0307.4.jpg

Thanks for any help.
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Reply #190 - Dec 3rd, 2008 at 2:23pm

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I see several things I would question like google updater and searh indexer ...many I cant read because the image is so bad

I really dont have time to go though process lists

You need to look them up
 
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Reply #191 - Dec 3rd, 2008 at 2:32pm

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That I have done, and I know what most of them are ,sorry if you took why I posted the pic wrong but I didn't ask for you to go through them, I just wondered if you had a list of the essentials needed to be left running for the flightsim and thought you might say something like it's ok to shut down one's of a certain group. I didn't think that required a really hires image. But I think I get your point.
I've been looking through the forums for one you may have put up, and just havn't run across it yet, wasn't asking for a direct link either, just the knowledge that one was indeed here somewhere.
 
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Reply #192 - Dec 3rd, 2008 at 2:37pm

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I would uninstall any google toolbar junk..  that stuff is nothing but data mining and you dont need it to be updated.. that kind of thing in background activity can cause problems if it trys to access the net while you are flying

As for essentials... its simple, my first post specifies exactly what can be shut down... anything else which is Windows default is left alone

If Windows installed a service and its running.. other than what I posted should be left alone



 
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Reply #193 - Dec 3rd, 2008 at 2:52pm

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That's what I needed know! I was a little unsure as to the relation of the setup post and what all was running in the task manager, but you ansered that perfectly. Thank you once again! Smiley
 
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Reply #194 - Dec 3rd, 2008 at 3:04pm

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Anxyous wrote on Dec 2nd, 2008 at 9:37am:
Eeeeeehhh.... prefetch? (sorry! Grin)



Cheesy
 
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