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Reply #150 - Oct 24^th, 2008 at 12:49pm

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FSX runs fine... the problem
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WilliamH wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2008 at 3:17pm:

I have a fresh install of XP with all service packs and updates. At the moment I have a trial copy of Eset AV and Windows firewall. Before I have always had the bells and whistles of the full AVG paid system but wonder whether with what I have now (with Eset being purchased) will be sufficient. I get the impression from what I read that the more protection one has the more the system has to cope with. My system is purely for FS9 and FSX on separate partitions of a second HD. Storage of downloads is on an external Maxtor. Internet access is through a home hub.

Is what I have enough protection ?

Thanks

Dont let the internet boogie man scare you.. with a router which comes with a NAT hardware firewall, the XP firewall and NOD 32 running its browser scanner which comes with the standard NOD product, your fine and dont need all that other crap

The only system than need more security are high level mission critical systems. Unless you are part of a corporation or a CIA agent, you dont need all that garbage. No one is going to attack you and anyone that would bother trying would not get very far unless they were high level hackers

you CIA or MI6? Do you have highly sensitive corporate records on the system?

LOL

Dont worry about it!

If a REAL hacker who is government trained wants in, hes getting in regardless of your security software. Real mission critical systems use hardware firewalls and trap wall security.. software is only their 2nd line of defense and if a real hacker can get through the primary line, they can get through the 2nd easier with enough time

So forget about the internet paranoia the security industry has festered and enjoy the system. Standard NOD 32 AV and the WinXP firewall will protect you just fine. I do suggest using Spybots Seach and destroy as well... just the IE Plugin, NOT the Tea Timmer feature. It will keep the browser protected from junkware and other crap. NOD deals with Virus and high level spyware only.

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Reply #151 - Oct 24^th, 2008 at 1:03pm

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Great tips Nick. 2 things though. I don't have O&O defrag. I have diskeeper 2008. It defrags the MFT and does a good job of defragging the drives as well. I think.
Good enough?
Also, I followed all the steps, with the exception of the defragging with O&O, to the letter. Small problem. The pagefile. After changing it, FSX and FS9 would CTD. They would run fine until then, BUT, everything else I am doing would slowly grind to a halt. I sometimes watch movies on my PC DVD while FS is running or browse Youtube and the browser would be really slow in loading. The menu bar would load slower and slower until the sim eventually crashes. I'm guessing it was the pagefile mod. I reverted back to system managed and all is well so far.
A sidenote, I have O&O clever cache and saw you dont recommend it at all. Does it hog resources at all? I don't really want to get rid of it as I paid good money for it. However, if it does more harm than good, I will definitely toss it.
System Specs
E6750 Pentium
4GB dual channel ram
8800 GTS 512MB

Goran

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Reply #152 - Oct 25^th, 2008 at 12:05am

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I have said it once I have said it 1000 times.. nothing you use will replace O&O defrag for my list and the settings I posted in that list rely on O&O defrag being used exactly as I specified.. otherwise, forget everything I posted

you are running 4GB... OOM or page errors can come from not using the edit for 4GB correctly on a 32bit OS. However system managed for PM will work fine as it expands the PF as needed but it will fragment the PF as well

It makes absolutely no sense that you would have problems with a 3072-3072 page file running 2GB or PM so I suspect something else is wrong

« Last Edit: Oct 25^th, 2008 at 10:45am by NickN »

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Reply #153 - Oct 25^th, 2008 at 6:10am

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Cheers Nick. Just what I wanted to hear.

Now I suppose you haven't looked at O&O 11 yet have you? I sent them an email asking them if they had fixed the problem with 10 but had no reply as yet. 11 is the only version I have. Is there any way I can tell if the error is sorted?

Just starting the big reinstall so will be a few days yet before I have everything installed properly then I can start optimising.

Best regards&&&&William

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Reply #154 - Oct 25^th, 2008 at 10:48am

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No, I have not looked at v11

If v11 is what you have to be sure simply do not ever run the SPACE defrag after running the Complete Name defrag passes but do make sure to set it up to use layout.ini as I specified

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Reply #155 - Oct 25^th, 2008 at 12:34pm

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Cheers Nick,

thank you for your whole work on tweaking XP/FSX; I did it to the point, everthing works fine/enhanced.
Just one question concerning your 4 GB RAM tweak: (multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows XP Professsional" /fastdetect /3GB /Userva=2560 <---- add it here)
you know!
How much RAM should XP SP 3 after this tweak be able to adress? (I am running 4 GB RAM)
Mine adresses 2,7 GB RAM (others say for example John Veneman around 3,2 GB).
Everything okay or should I do anything else?
Thank you for your answer!
Exuse my german-styl (i.e. poor) english

Cheers Rainer

P.S.: I hesitate installing FSX SP 2, I´ve heard a lot of woers/difficulties/corruptions if you have not a "nacked" (i. e. origninal) FSX-installation. And I don´t need multiplayer issues; I´m just a "stand-alone" "bavarian" bush-flyer -

. Nevertheless I prefer wine!

Specs:
Seasonic energy 80-Plus 650 Watt Power Supply
S-775 C2D nF680i Asus P5N32-E SLI ACPI Bios Rev 1404
Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3,16GHz 1408FSB 6M L2 Cache LGA775
2x Corsair DIMM DDR2-800 2GB SDRAM
2x GeForce 8800GTS (SLI) 640MB EVGA GDDR3 PCIe
Creative SB X-Fi™ XtremeGamer
Eizo 1920x1200x32
2xSamsung HD 321KJ 16MB SATA2 320GB 7200RPM
WIN XP Pro SP3 FSX SP1 FTX Blue/Gold
Saitek X52 Pro Flight System, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals

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Reply #156 - Oct 26^th, 2008 at 2:18am

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NickN wrote on Oct 25^th, 2008 at 10:48am:

No, I have not looked at v11

If v11 is what you have to be sure simply do not ever run the SPACE defrag after running the Complete Name defrag passes but do make sure to set it up to use layout.ini as I specified

Thanks Nick - if I do ever get an answer from O&O I will let you know.

Best regards&&&&William

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Reply #157 - Oct 26^th, 2008 at 4:48pm

NickN Offline
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aeugli wrote on Oct 25^th, 2008 at 12:34pm:

Cheers Nick,

thank you for your whole work on tweaking XP/FSX; I did it to the point, everthing works fine/enhanced.
Just one question concerning your 4 GB RAM tweak: (multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows XP Professsional" /fastdetect /3GB /Userva=2560 <---- add it here)
you know!
How much RAM should XP SP 3 after this tweak be able to adress? (I am running 4 GB RAM)
Mine adresses 2,7 GB RAM (others say for example John Veneman around 3,2 GB).
Everything okay or should I do anything else?
Thank you for your answer!
Exuse my german-styl (i.e. poor) english

Cheers Rainer

P.S.: I hesitate installing FSX SP 2, I´ve heard a lot of woers/difficulties/corruptions if you have not a "nacked" (i. e. origninal) FSX-installation. And I don´t need multiplayer issues; I´m just a "stand-alone" "bavarian" bush-flyer -

. Nevertheless I prefer wine!

Specs:
Seasonic energy 80-Plus 650 Watt Power Supply
S-775 C2D nF680i Asus P5N32-E SLI ACPI Bios Rev 1404
Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3,16GHz 1408FSB 6M L2 Cache LGA775
2x Corsair DIMM DDR2-800 2GB SDRAM
2x GeForce 8800GTS (SLI) 640MB EVGA GDDR3 PCIe
Creative SB X-Fi™ XtremeGamer
Eizo 1920x1200x32
2xSamsung HD 321KJ 16MB SATA2 320GB 7200RPM
WIN XP Pro SP3 FSX SP1 FTX Blue/Gold
Saitek X52 Pro Flight System, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals

Windows XP x32 if it is properly marked and the application is correcly marked will allow the app to have up to 3.2GB of memory to that application regarless of what the usage says.. the readout is wrong

If you are not running FSX SP2 (marked by Aces) and do not mark the fsx.exe file for RTM or SP1 manaully using special software to allow >2GB use.. installing 4GB is a complete and total waste for FSX.

It will never use more than 2

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Reply #158 - Oct 26^th, 2008 at 11:17pm

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Hi Nick. I have a question. Can I disable the 'server' and 'computer browser' services if I have a stand alone system (no network, just internet)?

Thanks, Jim

Rampage II Gene, i7 965 4GHz
Mushkin Redline DDR3 1600
XP x64 SP2
ASUS Matrix GTX285

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Reply #159 - Oct 27^th, 2008 at 8:01am

Raymond Keattch Offline
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I have owned all FS versions and used them all regularly - until FSX that is. For a few months I went through tweaking, but never got a smooth FSX, so gradually stopped using it.

I know have a pretty decent computer, so a couple of weeks ago, I re-installed FSX and searched the web for FSX tweaking articles, and that is how I found this forum - thanks very much for the extensive advice given so far.

I have a home built 32bit Vista system with an Asus P5K-Pro motherboard, overclocked Q6600 at 3.4Ghz, an Nvidia 1Gb GTX 280 and 4Gb installed ram.

By following this article, I have at least got a system that runs FSX without crashing and freezing, but I have a couple of questions to ask.

1.. Disable UAC

If I do this, Nhancer will no longer run, throwing up errors about not being able to write to Nvidia folders. Once UAC is disabled, what else should I be doing to make sure this doesn't happen?

UAC is not disabled at the moment, so no doubt clock cycles are being wasted (enough to make FSX stutter?

2.. Stutters

No matter what poolsize I use, or indeed removing the poolsize entry in FSX.CFG, I can't get rid of stuttering. I have tried setting it from 4000000 to 80000000 but it still stutters!

No doubt something else is amiss here - I have overclocked the graphics card, but I have been careful not to push it too far. I don't get any symptoms of a card being pushed too far.

I have tried FPS limit at unlimited and set it from 20 to 30 FPS - 26 and 28 are smoother settings, but stuttering is still evident. I am using NickN tests flight in the Baron from KSEA and back.

FSX is far better than I have ever seen it, but the stuttering is as annoying as ever (stuttering is not only during turns). As least I am using the sim now and flying online!

Ray Keattch

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Reply #160 - Oct 27^th, 2008 at 9:39pm

NickN Offline
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This is not a diagnostic thread for FSX and hardware

However if you are using UTX USA/Canada disable moving traffic in the UTX interface. Setting it to zero in FSX after UTX patch 1.2 wont turn the CPU and memory load off car traffic. Runing higher than 8% for a very overclocked system can be a drag on a system. If you use UTX and have version 1.2 shut down moving traffic in the UTX tool

Anything else is more in line with diagnosing the hardware setup and FSX settings and unfortunately I do not have the time to go through it in another thread right now.

you can run through this post and the links and instructions for FSX setup in it and see if anything helps http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=28244&PID=161186#161186

by the way, I dont use Vista

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Reply #161 - Oct 27^th, 2008 at 10:06pm

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I'm sorry, I thought I was asking a set-up and optimization question. Let me rephrase. For those of us who have no networking, can we add to your list of disabled services: 'server' and 'computer browser'?

-Jim

Rampage II Gene, i7 965 4GHz
Mushkin Redline DDR3 1600
XP x64 SP2
ASUS Matrix GTX285

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Reply #162 - Oct 28^th, 2008 at 1:17am

NickN Offline
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FSX runs fine... the problem
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raptorx wrote on Oct 27^th, 2008 at 10:06pm:

I'm sorry, I thought I was asking a set-up and optimization question. Let me rephrase. For those of us who have no networking, can we add to your list of disabled services: 'server' and 'computer browser'?

-Jim

Jim I missed your question

There is no reason to disable the services as they pose no memory or CPU footprint on the system if you do not have an internal network

File and Print Sharing is a common service needed by many and not just those on a network. Anyone who uses a hardware RAID card which ties into the card through the browser must have that enabled, therefore no, I will not add that to the list

As for Computer Browser, same as above however if one does not use any internal network connections neither service will impose any loss of perf and those who need the services require them to be on.

If there was any other service that I considered valuable to shut down I would have posted it

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Reply #163 - Oct 28^th, 2008 at 10:50am

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OK, thanks Nick. I won't mess with them.

-Jim

Rampage II Gene, i7 965 4GHz
Mushkin Redline DDR3 1600
XP x64 SP2
ASUS Matrix GTX285

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Reply #164 - Oct 28^th, 2008 at 6:21pm

Raymond Keattch Offline
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NickN wrote on Oct 27^th, 2008 at 9:39pm:

This is not a diagnostic thread for FSX and hardware

Oops - sorry

FSX and my PC have never run so good - I am flying everyday, it is just those stutters!

Raymond Keattch

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