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Apr 12^th, 2008 at 12:09pm

fabian_e Ex Member

then a "Bear" patrolling the sea.
From Wikipedia:
"The Tu-95RT variant in particular was a veritable icon of the Cold War as it performed a vital maritime surveillance and targeting mission for other aircraft and surface ships and submarines. It was identifiable by a large bulge under the fuselage, which housed a radar antenna that was used to search for and target surface ships. The US Navy placed high priority in intercepting the Tu-95RT aircraft at least two hundred miles from the carrier with its F-14 Tomcat interceptors, which would then escort the Tu-95. On occasion, USN Tomcats demonstrated an ability to intercept Tu-95RT aircraft at ranges up to 1,000 miles from the fighters' carrier battle group.

During interceptions Tu-95 tail gunners typically kept their twin cannon pointed upwards as to not antagonize the intercepting fighters. Similarly, NATO rules of engagement for interceptions restricted aircrews from locking onto the Tu-95 with fire control radars lest this be misinterpreted as a hostile act.

During the height of the Cold War, the long range of the Tu-95 was demonstrated weekly as a pair of Tu-95s would fly from the Kola peninsula to Cuba along the east coast of the United States, escorted continuously along the way.

The Tu-95 dropped the Tsar Bomba in 1961."

So far for the infos, hope you like my pic,

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Reply #1 - Apr 12^th, 2008 at 2:50pm

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...nicht schlecht! Shocked

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Reply #2 - Apr 13^th, 2008 at 5:23am

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"The Tu-95RT variant in particular was a veritable icon of the Cold War as it performed a vital maritime surveillance and targeting mission for other aircraft and surface ships and submarines. It was identifiable by a large bulge under the fuselage, which housed a radar antenna that was used to search for and target surface ships. The US Navy placed high priority in intercepting the Tu-95RT aircraft at least two hundred miles from the carrier with its F-14 Tomcat interceptors, which would then escort the Tu-95. On occasion, USN Tomcats demonstrated an ability to intercept Tu-95RT aircraft at ranges up to 1,000 miles from the fighters' carrier battle group.

Only thing is that you're flying a 'Sprut' (Tu-95MS post coldwar update), not the ELINT version

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Reply #3 - Apr 13^th, 2008 at 1:11pm

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That's right, I'm flying a -MS version. But the Tu-95MS version is not only a past cold war version. It was developed earlier and made its first flight in September 1979 Wink

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The MS version entered service in 1984 - fitts perfeclty in the cold war timeframe. Impressive to see that the 50s design frame is still active today (First Flight September 1952).

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Reply #4 - Apr 13^th, 2008 at 2:14pm

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I don't know much about this plane, but it looks like it is some sort of prop plane and not a jet. Am I correct?

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Reply #5 - Apr 13^th, 2008 at 2:58pm

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markag wrote on Apr 13^th, 2008 at 2:14pm:

I don't know much about this plane, but it looks like it is some sort of prop plane and not a jet. Am I correct?

Yes - "The Tu-95 is powered by four Kuznetsov NK-12 turboprop engines, each driving contra-rotating propellers..."

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Reply #6 - Apr 13^th, 2008 at 3:05pm

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Meck wrote on Apr 12^th, 2008 at 2:50pm:

...nicht schlecht! Shocked

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Ich weiss....!!!! Ich liebe deutsch sprechen. Bitte ein Bit!!! haha

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Reply #7 - Apr 14^th, 2008 at 5:06am

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todayshorse wrote on Apr 13^th, 2008 at 2:58pm:

markag wrote on Apr 13^th, 2008 at 2:14pm:

I don't know much about this plane, but it looks like it is some sort of prop plane and not a jet. Am I correct?

Yes - "The Tu-95 is powered by four Kuznetsov NK-12 turboprop engines, each driving contra-rotating propellers..."

beaky wrote on Apr 11^th, 2008 at 5:46pm:

specter177 wrote on Apr 10^th, 2008 at 2:52pm:

Guess that means turboprops aren't considered jets?

Correct.
It has to do not with how combustion takes place in the engine, but how the engine provides propulsion "where the rubber meets the road". Turboprops use a stream of fluid (hot gas) to drive a turbine, but the turbine is not what pulls the plane forward; it's the prop.

Jet engines also have turbines inside, but again, they don't provide thrust- it's the fluid being expelled that does it.

I say "fluid" because it could be air, water, or almost anything that's a fluid: there are marine engines that work on the same principle... and there are even animals, like the squid, that use jet propulsion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_engine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turboprop

In the case of the P-51 Mustang, it's neither a turboprop nor jet, but a piston-driven prop. Completely different sort of engine.

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Reply #8 - Apr 14^th, 2008 at 5:48am

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I guess what we are getting at here is that cold war the tu-95 may well be, but it certainly isnt a cold war jet as the contest rules state.

No matter what variant it is, when it was built, or what colour it is, how long it is, when it first flew, or if it has winglets or not. its not a jet

I think we already had this with a mustang earlier in the contest Wink

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todayshorse wrote on Apr 14^th, 2008 at 5:48am:

No matter what variant it is, when it was built, or what colour it is, how long it is, when it first flew, or if it has winglets or not. its not a jet

ok, ok, I understand... Wink

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Reply #10 - Apr 14^th, 2008 at 12:31pm

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Hm, basically it's a jet with props as the fan.....

But who am I to say weather it counts or not...., I like the plane and the shot. Let the judges decide. Actually I'm not taking this too serious... Wink

Remember: It's for fun! If it doesn't count: so what, there's always a next month.

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Reply #11 - Apr 14^th, 2008 at 12:39pm

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Who cares about it's engines, it's a fantastic shot....it could go far Fabian.

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Reply #12 - Apr 14^th, 2008 at 1:06pm

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Correct.
It has to do not with how combustion takes place in the engine, but how the engine provides propulsion "where the rubber meets the road". Turboprops use a stream of fluid (hot gas) to drive a turbine, but the turbine is not what pulls the plane forward; it's the prop.

Jet engines also have turbines inside, but again, they don't provide thrust- it's the fluid being expelled that does it.

I say "fluid" because it could be air, water, or almost anything that's a fluid: there are marine engines that work on the same principle... and there are even animals, like the squid, that use jet propulsion.

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Hm, basically it's a jet with props as the fan.....

The NK-12 family isnt comparable with the western turboprop idea, its more like a hybrid between turboprop and turbojet.... something MS-FS cant simulate. On low altitude the jet component is way bigger than on any western engine, as the hot core has a few blowoff valves that keep the power at 12000 hp up to 20,000ft. after that it goes just like a normal turboprop with the usual decrease in power for every 100ft

And with close to 95% efficiency at cruise settings its quite economical.

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