I have always had a particular debate with my friend about which aircraft is better and he always say's that the Spitfire is better and i say the Mustang is but we can never reach an agreement!

So i ask you the question and i would like to find out peoples opinion!

Thanks

Ask Ozzy72 that question ...

When it really mattered, in 1940, the Spitfire was a much better aeroplane.

Overall the Spit was a little more versatile in its wartime career, particularly considering the basic design was over 3 years old when war broke out in 1939.

The 'Stang certainly was revolutionary though, and a battle winner once they'd put a Merlin in the front.

Thanks everyone for voting!!

hopefully more votes will be recieved, the vote will end in 2 weeks and ill see the overall result then, so get everyone you know to vote!!

well as im his buddy you all know what i voted for but i think its realy hard to chose which is better we were thinking of doing a battal on a combat simulater between them

the invisibal man wrote on Apr 1^st, 2008 at 5:50am:


HA HA me and my friend try but it never works!

I voted spitfire, soley on the looks, because there both designed for different tasks , as has been made clear.

They served very different roles... it's an unfair contest.
But assuming you mean "which is better in a one-on-one scrap with, say, a Me109", I'd have to say they each could hold their own.
as for which would prevail in a Spit-vs-Mustang shootout, I'd guess the pilot who knew his plane best would win.

If I had the money for only one of them, it'd be a very tough call... but I'd most likely choose a Hurricane.

If I had the money for both, I'd get a P-38.

a1 wrote on Apr 1^st, 2008 at 8:47pm:


It was meant to do no such thing. As my previous post said, it came out of an RAF wish to acquire licence built P-40s to supplement British aircraft (remembering that in 1940 British aircraft production was at full capacity).

The Spitfire was continually developed as required - remember at the time of the P-51's genesis the MkII Spit was the latest; and they went up to the Mk22 postwar... If anything the Hurricane would be more in need of replacing - and the last of those left the production line in 1944!

p-51mustangfanatic wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2008 at 8:03am:


The Spitfire evolved along with the continued development RR Merlin (you needed quite a different airframe to hold a 1600hp Merlin, when the basic Merlin at the start of the war developed 1030hp!), and then the Griffon (major airframe changes due to a huge leap in power and a major change in balance due to the size of the engine), not because of the design "not being right". Most of the major Mk changes were due to new engines being available (I & II to V; V to IX; IX to XII then XIV; XIV to 21 and 22).

By the time the RR/Packard Merlin made it into the P51 (remembering at the time, with reference to your point below about visibility, the Mustang was the high backed B/C), the Spit was already almost at its definitive Mk with the Merlin (Mk IX). You also make the point above that the Mustang itself had several variations - with the H model being quite a lot different to the poorly-engine P51A

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Yep, the wide track undercarriage is a nicety and certainly an advantage the RAF knew about. When the pressure of war was over, and Vickers-Supermarine developed the Spiteful, one of the main changes was a switch the a wide track u/c unit.

The Spit had a bubble canopy too, with the the Mk XVI (development of the IX), the XIV and all subsequent variants bar the XIX and 21.

The Spit also had a useful naval career too (as the Seafire). Another example of its versatility.

Ah, the eternal debate. How many times have we had this discussion then? I happen to like the Mustang. If you needed a plane to take you all the way to Berlin, have a scrap with a bunch of Fw190s and then shoot up a few trains on the way home just for good measure, the Mustang was your plane. However if we’re talking best US Warbird, P-47 every time. Didn’t have the range of the Mustang but had the speed and better firepower and could take a good kicking and get you home in one piece. One rifle bullet in the Mustang’s radiator and it was hello POW .  But the P-47 could keep flying with a cylinder shot out .
But back on topic, Spitfire of course, no contest .

Id like to ongratulate C on his fantastic field of kowledge o the spitfire!!   Well done

I have loads of info on the mustang and would love to have a face to face debate with you lol!

i know this is nothing to do with topic but do you need to pay to use the fourm

C wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2008 at 3:08pm:



well Messerschmit Bf-109 also called the ME 109

C wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2008 at 6:17pm:


He he!

Dosen't matter we both know that the Bf-109 could most definatley be absolutley obliterated by either the spitfire or the mustang!!!

As i said, the ME/BF-109 would beat em both in looks and flying charteristics .

C wrote on Apr 27^th, 2008 at 10:56am:


Shhh, just throwingsome feul on the fire

p-51mustangfanatic wrote on Apr 29^th, 2008 at 9:41am:



A 50/50 answer, maybe Mods are putting this thread to bed with a nice even outcome

Matt

They can now! I picked the Mustang, but I'm slightly biased, since my grandfather owns one and I've flown in it before. Plus, it looks better. 

Sorry guys, I love the Stang too!

"If it looks right, it probably is".

Mustang FTW!

I was lucky to see one lyin at an airshow last year... Sound is unmatched... Except by the Spitfire and the Lancaster... But that's the only thing they have in common

I think it's a 50/50 deal. P-51D and the MK XIV Spit that is. If I had the money I don't know which one I would choose. Need to have five I guess, P-51D, MK XIV, F8F, F4U-4, and the best looking Brit fighter, the Hawker Sea Fury. Not too much to ask for......is it??
Bob

Was looking through a Mustang website the other day. A history of surviving Mustangs. One listed, still flying today, Petie II I think, it was bought in 1957 as surplus for $755.00. I was making that kind of money then!!!      
Bob

mustang51 wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2008 at 3:28pm:


I know i always thought if i were back then i would have a few rite now!!!

i love your choose in aircraft i so would have a hawker sea fury a mustang and a spit in my collection! then a bearcat! 

one day when i win the lottery lol! (like 100 times!)

masmith wrote on Aug 24^th, 2008 at 1:17pm:


Must be one of those American fellows!

One thing you can say about both the Mustang and Spitfire - they started well and got uglier!

Err, it says at the top

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Yep right down the same lines as me Mic.

I completely agree, in fact you have probably said it better  

By popular demand i think the mustang won! or i know i for a fact!

maybe we should re open the poll and see the result afterwards??