Folks,

Got a puzzlement about FS[9] and CFS.  They are both related.

In a nutshell, in the old days of dial-up I could see other players airplanes even when I didn't have their's in my hangar, whether it was FS2002Pro or CFS.  I know I know,...I've read all the posts about it here that it don't work that way anymore.

Rather than try to copy in my lengthly detailed explanation and testing done of what I mean; posted with pictures and whatnot, I ask you to read the thread at

http://forums.netwings.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10620

Would sure like your opinions.

Thanks for your indulgence.

KC
ooops, am I allowed to post a link yet as this is my first post? If not, I'll cut and paste what I wrote in a reply to this.  We'll see when I hit 'post'

edit: although it first talks about CFS, follow on posts get into FS9

..I don't know about seeing other folks non-Default aircraft after modifying the .cfg File as you suggest, but as far as I can remember, it has always been possible to see other Folks moving animations; Landing gear, Flaps, Rudder, Ailerons, Elevators, etc...in Multiplayer.......!

The "Seeing other Folks non-Default Aircraft" has only been possible if you have exactly the same Aircraft, with the same Textures, in your Hangar... ...!

Paul...G-BPLF...FS 2004... ...!

Hi there,

I´m not shure if I understand you correctly.
Well, however.

1. You need more than 3 ports open on your router.
read this for details what ports need to be opened when using
a specific MSFS.
http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1148901173

2. Seeing another players addon aircraft does not depend on the ports.
If your ports are closed, you won´t be able to connect at all.
Sometimes it does work, but in that case other players won´t be able to connect. In very rare cases it can happen that you don´t see other players at all, not even with just default aircraft.

3. I tried to change the config like you did, too.
(ALLOW_PLANE_MODEL_SEND=1 and so on...)
But it never worked for me. Probabely this feature simply
isn´t supported with FS2004. I could imagine this was removed
because of payware addons (just speculating).

There are two possibilities to make another players addon aircraft show
up. Download an install it as well
But you can also define a substitute aircraft. For example. You friend owns some payware aircraft you can´t just download. But you have
the same aircraft model like a P-51 as freeware installed on your computer. In this case open the the aircraft config of your model
and change the line "title" to the exact name your friends model.

[fltsim.0]

sim=some model
model=
panel=

for example.

You´re config looks like this

title=P51-freeware

His config looks like this

title=P51-payware

If you change your "title" to "P51-payware" as well, the P51 you have installed will show up as your friends aircraft.

This works for FS2004. With FSX in conjunction with "FSHost Client"
you can just select a model from your installed airplanes from a menue.

regards,

sam

I modified my .cfg file as soon as I read this post, so it now depends on someone else doing the same thing, to see if it works...

I am generally chuffing around the skies in FS 2004 Multiplayer, most days......!

Paul...G-BPLF...FS 2004... ...!

I changed my FS9.cfg to see if it'll work. Probably not as long as not everyone makes the same changes. What worries me the most is this; if it works wouldn't the bandwidth being used by sending models and textures back and forth reach it's limit very soon, thus resulting in stutters and other problems?

Crash

Two good observations folks.

But as far as bandwidth goes, whatever the bandwidth is for a telephone got to be smaller than cable/Dsl and we didn't get stutters.  I'm not technical enough to understand bandwidth.

As for Uncle Bill,...well....he did put those entries in the [Multiplayer] Section of the fs9.cfg file; so it's his 'doings'.

I will try to do a test flight with just one of my friends who is willing to change his fs9.cfg file to confirm whether it works with cable or not.

That is the whole point of my post.

I have a ton of addons in my hangar, as probably most of you do.  So do others that fly online.

The thing is,....we both may not have the same interests in aviation.  Me...I got a lot of beautiful World War II warbirds, bombers, etc..  Others may go for modern fighter jets, helicopters, etc..  Heck even the AirBus 380! 

Shouldn't be a need to fill up each other's hangars with all....just so we can see each other properly.

But I do appreciate your continued interest in the subject.

Tell you what,...this coming week I'll connect with Simviation's FSHost Server in a Lancaster bomber, airport ID KHEF [Manassas Regional in Virginia] in parking [any one of them] and you come join me there, but don't tell me what airplane you are in.  

One or the other will taxi towards the other to see what we look like.

My pilot name will be....KC Jones...natch.

Again my thanks for your interest.

If it don't work,...then I guess I'll just have to enjoy all those wonderful eye-candy downloads in the privacy of my own home...

Take care,

KC
edit: I shouldn't have used the word "willing".  Most folks don't even know where the FS9.cfg is located.  Even walking them to it,..they are hesitant to change anything because....."it might mess up everything..its working now".  Well, if Uncle Bill didn't want us to see each other's model he wouldn't have put those lines in the Multiplayer section.

For Sim V Teamspeak, try this...>>>>

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1129930528/4

Note: For simplicity, most Folks use the good-old Chat Window......!

...and don't forget everyone's favourite Page to see who is on line at any time...>>>

http://cockpit.netfrag.org:8090/

Bookmark the address along with your Sim V Bookmark......!

Paul...G-BPLF...FS 2004.....Win XP....NO Router...Joy!.... ...!

You could use any of the rooms you like. Since no one on the tours hardly ever uses Teamspeak, just click on one and start yapping away with whomever else is there.

Crash