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The days when Fozzer and I didn't have gray hair (Read 1239 times)

Jan 15^th, 2008 at 6:05am

Papa9571 Offline
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Remember the good ol' days?

No I'm not talking about Pentiun III, Pentium II, or even 386 processors.

I'm talking about the original PC, the XT.

You know, the ones with 16K of ram, a 4.77 mhz processor, dual 5 1/4 inch floppy drives, and orange or green crt's.

And those were the heady days of MS Flight Simulator.

Now go relive the glory old days and see what we "old timers" flew. Try your hand at flight with a keyboard and minimal black and white graphics.

Enter the WW1 arena with a biplane and attack enemy targets without gettig shot down.

If that is too old try you hand with the first color (EGA) graphics.

Or try FS4 where the first ATC was implemented.

I think you young whippersnappers will be amazed at how far computers, and software, has come in the last 25 years

Here is the place to go to get all of this fun.

http://fshistory.simflight.com/fsvault/fs1-trs80.htm

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Reply #1 - Jan 15^th, 2008 at 12:32pm

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We had the Sinclair Spectrum 48K, you Blokes over the Pond had the Sinclair Timex 48K...

Same computers. Different names. Same Bundle of Joy!... Kiss

Kiss

...!!

Paul....A bit of an 8-Bit Enthusiast... Cool

Cool

...!

P.S. My mop of hair is still a sleek shade of (stress-free) Black...
...and I've still got all my old, 1970's onwards, Computers and Software!... Wink

Wink

...!

P.S. One of the first of my Sinclair Spectrum 48K Computers cost me £130 in 1982...!
Before that, came the Sinclair ZX80 (1980), followed by the Sinclair ZX81 (1981).
...still got them all...

...!!
The Central Processor was a Zilog Z80, running at 3.5 MHz, programmed in Machine Code.
The Operating System language was/is the built-in, excellent Sinclair BASIC.

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Reply #2 - Jan 15^th, 2008 at 12:47pm

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Some serious jaggy problems there Wink

Wink

....I think you should turn the AA on your card up Grin

Grin

Grin

great pics

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Reply #3 - Jan 15^th, 2008 at 12:53pm

MrPotter Ex Member

I remember the old green crt's as it was what the spectrum came with, these sure bring back some happy memories

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Reply #4 - Jan 15^th, 2008 at 2:16pm

Ashar Offline
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3FPS flicker free monitor...LOL Grin

Grin

Grin

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Reply #5 - Jan 15^th, 2008 at 2:16pm

CD. Ex Member

Fozzer wrote on Jan 15^th, 2008 at 12:32pm:

...The Operating System language was/is the built-in, excellent Sinclair BASIC.

Blimey, that brings back memories...

PEEK, POKE, GOSUB, BEEP....

R2D2 eat your heart out... Cool

Cool

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Reply #6 - Jan 15^th, 2008 at 2:42pm

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Quote:

Fozzer wrote on Jan 15^th, 2008 at 12:32pm:

...The Operating System language was/is the built-in, excellent Sinclair BASIC.

Blimey, that brings back memories...

PEEK, POKE, GOSUB, BEEP....

R2D2 eat your heart out... Cool

Cool

...time to re-live your miss-spent youf, Rob!..>>>

http://www.spectaculator.com/

Fitted with the Multiface II (hacking machine!... Wink

Wink

...

..!

I've got the pre-Payware Spectaculator version on CD!.... Grin

Grin

...!

Paul...LD HL (23756).... Cool

Cool

...!

...how I love good old-fashioned Machine Code...!

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Reply #7 - Feb 3^rd, 2008 at 4:36pm

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And talk about expensive... I bought an Apple 2E to replace my TI-99.

In 1982 that Apple set me back $2500 and did not even include a hard drive. For the money I did get Apple Works (similar to MS office) a color monitor, a color printer and 2 360M floppy drives.

The good news was a ribbon for the color was less than $10.00.

An external 40M HDD was something like $800. I installed a Z80 card so I could run CPM on it. Later I installed a memory board from Applied Electronics ($500) that would let you load your software to the memory which greatly improved the speed of the application loaded. But once you turned the computer off everything dumped from the board.

Applications were very hard to come buy so I did a lot of programming in Apple Basic and got fairly adept with machine language.

For what I had invested in the computer I could build a real kick butt computer today and probably have money left over.

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Reply #8 - Feb 3^rd, 2008 at 9:52pm

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richardd43 wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2008 at 4:36pm:

And talk about expensive... I bought an Apple 2E to replace my TI-99.

In 1982 that Apple set me back $2500 and did not even include a hard drive. For the money I did get Apple Works (similar to MS office) a color monitor, a color printer and 2 360M floppy drives.

The good news was a ribbon for the color was less than $10.00.

An external 40M HDD was something like $800. I installed a Z80 card so I could run CPM on it. Later I installed a memory board from Applied Electronics ($500) that would let you load your software to the memory which greatly improved the speed of the application loaded. But once you turned the computer off everything dumped from the board.

Applications were very hard to come buy so I did a lot of programming in Apple Basic and got fairly adept with machine language.

For what I had invested in the computer I could build a real kick butt computer today and probably have money left over.

$800 for 40MB?!? Shocked

Shocked

Shocked

Shocked

Blabbing Away at SimV Since June 8, 2004

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Reply #9 - Feb 3^rd, 2008 at 11:07pm

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YES.. That was the going price in the early 80s

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Reply #10 - Feb 4^th, 2008 at 12:02am

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richardd43 wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2008 at 11:07pm:

YES.. That was the going price in the early 80s

Wow...I can get a CD for 4 cents... Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

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Reply #11 - Feb 7^th, 2008 at 5:33pm

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It's amazing, ain't it? I think I'll leave the oldies to the guys who know what they're talking about. Wink

Wink

And thank for the link, Papa. Cheesy

Cheesy

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Reply #12 - Feb 7^th, 2008 at 7:06pm

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That's awesome. Grin

Grin

I started on FS4. Ahhhh, memories...

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Reply #13 - Feb 7^th, 2008 at 7:14pm

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My phone has 600kbs of RAM...think I could load FS5 on it? Grin

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Reply #14 - Feb 8^th, 2008 at 4:10am

Fozzer Offline
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richardd43 wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2008 at 4:36pm:

And talk about expensive... I bought an Apple 2E to replace my TI-99.

In 1982 that Apple set me back $2500 and did not even include a hard drive. For the money I did get Apple Works (similar to MS office) a color monitor, a color printer and 2 360M floppy drives........

I've still got the remains of my old Apple 2E, in bits, in a cardboard box, somewhere in my garage.... Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

...

The real fun started with my Sinclair Spectrum 48k's, and Commodore C64's....
....and hours of glorious Machine Code programming!... Smiley

...!

Paul...Zilog Z80 Enthusiast.... Cool

Cool

...!

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Reply #15 - Feb 8^th, 2008 at 7:07am

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Ashar wrote on Feb 4^th, 2008 at 12:02am:

richardd43 wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2008 at 11:07pm:

YES.. That was the going price in the early 80s

Wow...I can get a CD for 4 cents... Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

And in 25 years, you'll be able to get an Nvidia 8800GTX for about the same price.

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Reply #16 - Feb 16^th, 2008 at 5:21pm

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according to today's independent, in less than 25 years computers will have become as intelligent as humans. Yeahhh...

I have come across a good few old computers bcause my dad has some involvement with them (at peak, including modern ones that were in use and old ones that were in storage, we had 16 computers in the house, in various states) but I don't think I've ever seen one quite that old. At least not a complete one.

Really strange to think of the comparatively tiny storage space, processing power etc these old things had, at least for me having really become aware of computers only airly recently and thus accustomed to modern standards; gigabytes etc...imagine telling a person in the early 80's that one day they'd be able to buy computers hundreds of times more powerful for less money than it cost to buy an apple 2e at $2500... they'd have thought you were mad... or they'd have thought that the computer would have taken up a room big enough to fit a house in... Grin

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