Simviation Forum - Embraer 170 Brakes Fail warning

Dec 15^th, 2007 at 6:32am

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Very strange. I have FSX set for no failures and when I start this plane up it give me a brakes failure warning light and another accum pressure warning on the panel. It must be an error on the part of the designer, for whom I see no method of contact. The panel for it is aliased to the lear45 and when I look at it, it seems fine.

I've even taken a look at the xlm file and am not sure where I need to make a change. If I knew what to look for, I'd cut and paste part of the aircraft and panel configs here.

Please help!

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Reply #1 - Dec 18^th, 2007 at 12:26am

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I think more info is needed. Which SPECIFIC 170 (link) is it? Don't assume fault on the designer, since many aircraft these days are created for FS9 or lower.

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Reply #2 - Dec 18^th, 2007 at 7:19pm

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So Sorry. The file I downloaded is ohy170.zip. It doesn't have a readme, it does include names of members of the dreamwings team as designers, but it doesn't have an email for them. Perhaps now you can see where the problem might be.

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Reply #3 - Dec 22^nd, 2007 at 10:31pm

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there is obviously a problem with the lear45 gauge not being able to "sense" something that isn't modeled into the aircraft itself. Sometimes this happens with aliased panels and there isn't anything you can do about it.

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Reply #4 - Dec 23^rd, 2007 at 10:23pm

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I'd tend to agree, however, if that were the case, then the brakes fail light would come on in the lear, which it doesn't.

So somewhere in the cfg of the embraer lies the answer. But..what part is related to the hydraulics and/or the brakes?

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Reply #5 - Dec 24^th, 2007 at 1:06am

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ND6849C wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2007 at 10:23pm:

I'd tend to agree, however, if that were the case, then the brakes fail light would come on in the lear, which it doesn't.

So somewhere in the cfg of the embraer lies the answer. But..what part is related to the hydraulics and/or the brakes?

No it wouldnt come on in the lear because the value that the light runs on is part of the lear, not the embraer: the aliased panel in the embraer looks for a value that is built into the lear .air file, and doesnt see it in the embraer .air file. Give me a few days and I will modify the default lear panel for your embraer so that the light goes out.

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Reply #6 - Jan 5^th, 2008 at 6:15am

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I know this is an "old" problem, but I just found the answer last night. I got an email from the designer of an FSX Citation 525, whose plane I recently downloaded. Here were his instructions for the Citation, which had the same problem as the Embraer:

First, when you open the aircraft.cfg file, scan down to the brakes section. You should see this:

[brakes]
parking_brake = 1 //Parking brake available
toe_brakes_scale = 1.2 //Brake scalar

Now put 2 forward slashes in front of all 3 lines like this:

//[brakes]
//parking_brake = 1 //Parking brake available
//toe_brakes_scale = 1.2 //Brake scalar

Finally, copy and paste the following under the above 3 lines (This is a new brakes statement and should do the trick):

[brakes]
Parking_brake = 1 //Parking brake available
Toe_brakes_scale = 1.2 //Brake scalar
Auto_brakes = 0
Hydraulic_system_scalar = 1 //On brakes dependant on the hydraulic system, ratio hid system to max brake hid pressure

Save the file and try it.

It worked, so I wanted anyone reading to know that John B. Loney of lfssd.net knew what to do for this.

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