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Wanting a new addon. (Read 953 times)
Oct 10
th
, 2007 at 1:49pm
|Alex|
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Howdy peepums
OK, so in a (somewhat) half hearted attempt to put just that little more fun into flighsim, I'm out on the hunt for a new addon.
I decided to post here to ask for opinions, as I have looked around everywhere. Most of the 'most popular' payware products I either have, or have no want/need for. I was just wanted opinions from people about newer/ish products that may have not built up a reputation yet, or anything you think is really outstanding.
Currently, I don't have enough time to learn a detailed A/C and all its systems (I already have PMDG 747/737) and I'm not really sure I'm looking for a scenery. But I may be wrong.
I'm really stuck in the middle, not sure what I want, and thats why I'm posting here, to hopefully be shoved in the direction of something
I've been contemplating Radar Contact for some time now, but the lack of airline names seems to be a bit of a worry. Plus, I've heard it can get quite complicated with AI traffic and ground procedures not working correctly. But then again, if you have experience, please share!
I'm more into commercial then GA, and currently more shorthaul as that is what my time is permitting.
Again I've been thinking about the CLS model (Ha ha going against what I just said) but don't really see it as being something I really want.
Also, no suggestions of FSX either
I know it seems a bit silly, me honestly having NO IDEA really what I want, but it's nice to have new things, and hey, if I can, why not?
I'm not wanting to spend too much, dare I say it (however much I LOVE FS9) and however much I would love to keep using it forever, I feel as though any investment over around £30-40 would be short lived.
After all that, any suggestions?
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Oct 10
th
, 2007 at 4:03pm
Mothball
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You have GOT to be a WOMAN. RIGHT?!?!?!?!
I want this, but I'm not sure, maybe not. But, I really should get it, but maybe I'll get this instead, but it cost so much, this one's cheaper, but this other one is higher quality and would last longer, but I probably wouldn't use it That much, so maybe I get the cheaper one instead, maybe I'll wait for it to go on sale, but if I don't get it, someone else might buy it and they won't have anymore of them. I guess I could buy it and if I don't like it, I can always bring it back, but that's such a pain, standing in line and all... blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
Alex has GOT to be short for Alexandra
Oh, the wishing and washing. I haven't seen a compass twirl around like the in a while. Thanx for the good laugh.
Semper Fi, Dave
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Oct 10
th
, 2007 at 4:47pm
Ashar
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Go for the CLS A330/A340 family...They're so much fun to fly and the models are very photogenic...Go for it...they're around 33 Euro...But! They'll be well worth it...Also, you won't have to learn the FMC as the one in there is based on the Default FS Flight Planner...GO!
PS: I'll post some shots in the Payware board...Check 'em out
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Oct 11
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, 2007 at 2:12am
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You have GOT to be a WOMAN. RIGHT?!?!?!?!
I want this, but I'm not sure, maybe not. But, I really should get it, but maybe I'll get this instead, but it cost so much, this one's cheaper, but this other one is higher quality and would last longer, but I probably wouldn't use it That much, so maybe I get the cheaper one instead, maybe I'll wait for it to go on sale, but if I don't get it, someone else might buy it and they won't have anymore of them. I guess I could buy it and if I don't like it, I can always bring it back, but that's such a pain, standing in line and all... blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
Alex has GOT to be short for Alexandra
Oh, the wishing and washing. I haven't seen a compass twirl around like the in a while. Thanx for the good laugh.
Semper Fi, Dave
Nice advice just call him a girl.....
If you want high detailed go for a Wilco 777 or 737 PIC.. The 777 has a FMC as does the 737 and they are almost real! a bit of money but what the hey
and since you have PMDG 737 which is the NG ones (I think) the PIC has classic ones the -300 -400 and -500 which are really great to fly! But another great aircraft to fly are CLS they ahve a great A310 and if you want Captain sim has a 757 which is highly detailed but it does kill your frames i have heard
Another great aircraft is one you'll have to wait for is the Air Simmer A320 it's looking fantastic!
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Oct 11
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, 2007 at 10:50am
Ashar
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If you want high detailed go for a Wilco 777 or 737 PIC.. The 777 has a FMC as does the 737 and they are almost real! a bit of money but what the hey
and since you have PMDG 737 which is the NG ones (I think) the PIC has classic ones the -300 -400 and -500 which are really great to fly! But another great aircraft to fly are CLS they ahve a great A310 and if you want Captain sim has a 757 which is highly detailed but it does kill your frames i have heard
Another great aircraft is one you'll have to wait for is the Air Simmer A320 it's looking fantastic!
Sorry to say, the Wilco 777 is terrible...Their 737 is excellent though...And yes I too am waiting for the Air Simmer A320
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Oct 11
th
, 2007 at 12:07pm
Mothball
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Okay, look, I admit that I'm very rough around the edges. My life, job and most of my hobbies demand a certain amount of risk to life and limb; and because of that, I demand that decisions and directions be clear to all involved in the operation, myself included. If I, or one of my team members are not clear about a particular issue, subject or anything pertaining to nothing less than total 100% understanding and readiness for whatever it is we're about to do, I expect them to say "I am not sure I understand this part of the operation", or whatever questions they my have, and they expect the same from me. In cave diving, we have a saying that goes like this "Any diver can call the dive, at any time, for any reason, without loss of any respect". The same holds true in skydiving and motorcycling. In aviation, it's the "fly/no-fly" decision. If in, let's say, urban warefare operations, for instance, I have a man who's been ramming doors for an amount of time, I expect him to say "I'm getting tired, I don't think I can be as effective as I've been anymore." Myself, or another teammate, will be more than willing to swap out with him and make him the "tail-end Charlie" and let him "rest" for awhile. What I'm saying is, wishy-washyness, indecisiveness, lack of direction and lack of honesty with one's self and others can get me killed, and worse than that, I may get one of my buddies killed if I'm not fully "into it" and I don't say anything to anyone. When I read Alex's post it sounded like my mom, aunts, sisters and girlfriend trying to decide what to do for lunch. They "talk in circles", wishing and washing, total indecisiveness, total lack of direction and by the time they talk themselves right into the ground, it's time for dinner. In this case, Alex has said that he wants this, but not really. He can do this, but he really doesn't want to. He could do this, but he's not sure, and on and on. If this went on in my usual crowd, I'd be growling at someone, telling them that they need to wake the fvk up and get there sh!t together or get the fvk out, and I'd expect the same treatment if I acted like that. This, not being a life and limb situation, and is just a forum where no one really knows anybody, I found the post laughable. In fact, I'm still laughing about it.
Alex, I sincerely apologize for being a dick to you (I really didn't type 'thingy', but okay), even though I still think it's funny as hell... My friendly advise to you in your current situation is #1) stop, just stop what you're doing or thinking. #2) Breathe, just take a deep breath and let it out #3) Become real honest with yourself, no one here really knows you and where you are really at, at this point in your life. Think about where you really are and where your heart really is. If you're happy with your simulator, then why change a good thing? If you feel you need to take a step back and re-evaluate where your at, then do so. We all have to do this from time to time. I've had to step back from teaching SCUBA several times, I just got to the point that I didn't feel as I was being effective enough with the students. It wouldn't be fair for the students to pay all that money to be trained half-a$$(I really didn't type butt there either, but again, okay), and God forbid that I sign-off on a student who has not met the basic qualifications for certification, and they go out there and get hurt or killed. The reason I'm typing all this, is because you have come to us, admitting that you have no clue as to what you want to do next with your simulator. You've thrown out and retracted your own thoughts and ideas to us, and you want us to come up with, and make a decision for you. That's not fair to us or you. That decision is on you. I'm talking to you as I would talk to anyone in my group. I talk to them, see what they're thinking and why, but they have to make their own decision whether they wish to continue or not. And, I am equally as crystal clear with them if I think that they are or are not presently up to the task at hand and why I think so. I'm not going to force anyone out of an airplane or make anyone do a deep, cave or a shark dive. I'm not gonna force anyone to ride a motorycle in the rain. It's up to them. Same thing with you, what you do with your simulator is up to you. If you have solid information, thoughts and ideas, please put them out there. You will get some good answers and discussions as to the pros and cons of your ideas, but decision is still yours, not ours. I'll leave you with quote from a Former Navy SEAL that I admire... "I will not be afraid to take action, because I know that any action is better than inaction. And I know that sometimes not acting is the boldest action of all." Best of luck and Semper Fi, Dave
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Oct 11
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, 2007 at 2:16pm
|Alex|
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Ha ha Mothball, no offence taken sir
It seemed light hearted enough, and if you think thats confusing. Think how I'm feeling in my head
Layne, thanks for the advice, I've heard good things about the 737 (Not much on the 777) so it seems like a definite plan for the not-so-distant-future
However, (looking at the website product page) it seems a tad too in depth for what I have time to master at the moment
Ash, I think you've swayed me, those shots in the Payware forum are awesome, and as I already have the CLS A340-500/600 series it seems like a logical continuation
Thats to everyone for their input, but I think the thing that finally tipped the scales is the ease of use and pure beauty of the CLS model
Also, the guy producing the paints for them does astounding work
Many thanks to all.
Alex
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Oct 12
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, 2007 at 8:38am
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If you don't have Ground Environment Pro, Flight Environment, Active Sky 6.5, get one of them. They will brighten up your sim no end
If you're bored of an evening - and you'll have to be - you can check out my screenshot gallery: Kriglsflightsimscreens
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Oct 12
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Ha ha Mothball, no offence taken sir
It seemed light hearted enough, and if you think thats confusing. Think how I'm feeling in my head
Layne, thanks for the advice, I've heard good things about the 737 (Not much on the 777) so it seems like a definite plan for the not-so-distant-future
However, (looking at the website product page) it seems a tad too in depth for what I have time to master at the moment
Ash, I think you've swayed me, those shots in the Payware forum are awesome, and as I already have the CLS A340-500/600 series it seems like a logical continuation
Thats to everyone for their input, but I think the thing that finally tipped the scales is the ease of use and pure beauty of the CLS model
Also, the guy producing the paints for them does astounding work
Many thanks to all.
Alex
Yes i recomend what Krigl said get one of those but if you want and aircraft wait for AirSimmer A320 (Like me and Ashar) or get the Wilco 737 (I love the 777! Noisy though
) it is not really hard to get used to (i am 13) and i already can do full IFR flights and almost do ILS landings in it. It has very great systems and is almost real life i bet once you get it you will love it... but you gotta have the manual in your hand for a while
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Oct 12
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, 2007 at 3:53pm
Mothball
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Alright Alex. Now that we got all that out the way, let's see if we can get you "dialed in". I see you have FS9, and seem quite satisfied with it, that's good. You also seem to still enjoy flight simming also - that's also good. That tells us that you're still interested in simming in general, so we're, at least, in the same ball park. Now, you say that you like "short hauls", but you also say, that you have a 747 program - 747's are not really "short haulers".... I'm wondering if the "stock" Bombardier Learjet 45 might be a better choice of aircraft. You would still be in the "commercial" type aircraft, and your skills with a 747 would transfer to the Learjet.... it would just be smaller and minus two jet engines. If I remember correctly, the Learjet 45 has a max range of about 4-5,000nm, but will still cruise at about FL400 @ around 450 KIAS, I'm probably a little off, on that info, but it's close enough for this application. If you feel that it's the aircraft that is the current "stumbling block", you may consider "downsizing" a bit, and it would cost you absolutely nothing. Your thoughts? Semper Fi, Dave
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, 2007 at 8:30am
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Or if he likes short hauls then there is AirSimmer A320, Wilco 737 PIC, Wilco/Feelthere ERJ-145 PIC and there is also CLS A310 and A330 for ya
All high quality aircraft
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Oct 13
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, 2007 at 10:27am
Slotback
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If you don't mind no Virtual cockpit (one is 'coming soon'), then try Flythemaddog.com. It's great and won't require too much learning as the FMC and general operation is fairly similar to the 737 Classic.
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, 2007 at 8:04am
Slotback
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Got around to reinstalling the Feelthere 737.... well.... it's great. IMO it's far better than the PMDG 'NG and is a bundle of joy to fly.
The sound and VC is just amazing, VERY imersive. Flight management and general operation is very similar to the 'NG, there should be little or no reading to convert to it. If you pick ready to start option in the load manager you can get the aircraft ready to fly in less than 5 minutes.
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If you don't mind no Virtual cockpit (one is 'coming soon'), then try Flythemaddog.com. It's great and won't require too much learning as the FMC and general operation is fairly similar to the 737 Classic.
FMC yes, general ops - not at all.
MY thought about the Maddog 06; it is a very genuine add-on, with most of the systems modelled.,but some features seems rushed and unpolished. The Autoland and some FMC calculations are terribly wrong, something I have pointed out in their forum. However here is the real drawback of MD06: The support. They have a very bad supportforum, especially if you have problems and reporting bug. Their general opinion is that their product is flawless and it's your own fault.
Any serious developer would have responded my question, but it has been ignored.
http://www.flythemaddog.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3609&hl=abeam
We are many customers that feel this way, and it seems like the devs has jumped the ship on this one. The VC is a no show (I am friends of one who betatested the thing and he is dumb found aswell).
So MD06 is a good add-on, with poor support.
I'm suggesting the Flight1 ATR, it's been under the radar for quite some time. It deserves more attention IMO
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Definatly go for GEPro and ActiveSky... i don't have Flight Environment but it does look rather good.
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