Simviation Forum - Tu-114 fuselage

Aug 19^th, 2007 at 5:48am

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Does anyone know the width and height of Tu-114 fuselage?

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Reply #1 - Aug 19^th, 2007 at 9:05am

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Thats a good question chekc there site out.

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Reply #2 - Aug 19^th, 2007 at 9:11am

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colsie123 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2007 at 9:05am:

Thats a good question chekc there site out.

How is that helpful in any way? Which site????

Was that really necessary to post?

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Reply #3 - Aug 19^th, 2007 at 9:35am

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Mictheslik wrote on Aug 19^th, 2007 at 9:11am:

Was that really necessary to post?

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With a post count of 173 in 6 days, we are getting very close to spam (such as the "Classics" thread). I haven't mentioned it in other threads but...

Colsie, you may be new, but people respect quality of posts, not quantity...

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Reply #4 - Aug 19^th, 2007 at 10:40am

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How is the classics post spam. Cry

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Reply #5 - Aug 19^th, 2007 at 10:44am

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Length 65.70 meters 215.55 feet
Height 12.85 meters 42.16 feet
I think thast is all I could find. Sorry.

Heres the site I meant tupolevs offical site:
http://www.tupolev.ru/English/Show.asp?SectionID=148

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Reply #6 - Aug 19^th, 2007 at 10:53am

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colsie123 wrote on Aug 19^th, 2007 at 10:44am:

Length 65.70 meters 215.55 feet
Height 12.85 meters 42.16 feet
I think thast is all I could find. Sorry.

Heres the site I meant tupolevs offical site:
http://www.tupolev.ru/English/Show.asp?SectionID=148

That's the Tu144....not the Tu114.....wrong aircraft Wink

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Reply #7 - Aug 19^th, 2007 at 10:54am

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DOH ill be right back with the right aircrfat is that the one wiht the props I have that in one of my books somewhere.

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Reply #8 - Aug 19^th, 2007 at 10:55am

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Correction its the il18 ive got.

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Reply #9 - Aug 19^th, 2007 at 11:02am

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There is such thing as an edit button Roll Eyes

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/aircraft/jetliner/tu114/

does that help?

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Reply #10 - Aug 19^th, 2007 at 12:09pm

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Does anyone know the width and height of Tu-114 fuselage?

Just to clarify in my mind, are we talking about the vertical and horizontal diameter of the fuselage section?

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How is the classics post spam.

Posts 2, 6, 7 & 10 are verging on it. I can't really see the point in writing post #1 as you did then 5 minutes later replying to it yourself with an extra sentence or two. As Mic says, the forum does have a modify button...

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Reply #11 - Aug 19^th, 2007 at 12:13pm

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Charlie wrote on Aug 19^th, 2007 at 12:09pm:

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Does anyone know the width and height of Tu-114 fuselage?

Just to clarify in my mind, are we talking about the vertical and horizontal diameter of the fuselage section?

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How is the classics post spam.

Posts 2, 6, 7 & 10 are verging on it. I can't really see the point in writing post #1 as you did then 5 minutes later replying to it yourself with an extra sentence or two. As Mic says, the forum does have a modify button...

Verging....they are spam...

Anyways from my own curiousity, I assume he means the distance from the ground to the bottom of the fuselage because the plane does seem oddly tall. Maybe if we could find a technical drawing with the height of the gear? Or just a drawing with some sort of scale...

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Reply #12 - Aug 19^th, 2007 at 12:21pm

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Jayhawk Jake wrote on Aug 19^th, 2007 at 12:13pm:

Anyways from my own curiousity, I assume he means the distance from the ground to the bottom of the fuselage because the plane does seem oddly tall. Maybe if we could find a technical drawing with the height of the gear? Or just a drawing with some sort of scale...

I'm not sure of the height but I believe that feature is because the Tu114 started life as a bomber, and the large nosewheel was to make more space for loading bombs...

It turned out to be a real pain at airports 'cos they had to have specialist steps made for them...

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Reply #13 - Aug 19^th, 2007 at 12:28pm

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Jayhawk Jake wrote on Aug 19^th, 2007 at 12:13pm:

Charlie wrote on Aug 19^th, 2007 at 12:09pm:

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Does anyone know the width and height of Tu-114 fuselage?

Just to clarify in my mind, are we talking about the vertical and horizontal diameter of the fuselage section?

Quote:

How is the classics post spam.

Posts 2, 6, 7 & 10 are verging on it. I can't really see the point in writing post #1 as you did then 5 minutes later replying to it yourself with an extra sentence or two. As Mic says, the forum does have a modify button...

Verging....they are spam...

I'm in a kind mood...

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Anyways from my own curiousity, I assume he means the distance from the ground to the bottom of the fuselage because the plane does seem oddly tall. Maybe if we could find a technical drawing with the height of the gear? Or just a drawing with some sort of scale...

I'm sure the question will be clarified in due course...

However, I am now confused:

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Cabin length, including flightdeck: 47.00 m (154 ft 2 in)
Max Width : 3.92 m (12 ft 10 in)
Max Height : 2.18 m (7 ft 2 in)
Total Volume : 465 cu m (16,420 cu ft)
Freight Holds (underfloor) : 70 cu m (16,420 cu ft)

The above reply was the answer to the same question posted by chornedsnorkack on Pprune on 14th August 2007!

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Reply #14 - Aug 19^th, 2007 at 1:42pm

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Have a look at this:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1071214/L/

I am puzzled as to where this headroom comes from. Can you have anything that big in the belly hold of a 707 or 320? I mean, 392 cm cabin width would mean Tu-114 is just 40 cm wider than 707 and less than 20 cm wider than 320!

So yes, it is the fuselage height that I wonder about, from underbelly to roof. Preferrably an idea of how this is divided (underbelly to kitchen floor, headroom kitchen floor to kitchen ceiling, thickness of deck and deck beams from ceiling to floor... cabin height is quoted as 218 cm, then roof thickness from ceiling to rooftop... this sort of thing).

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Reply #15 - Aug 19^th, 2007 at 1:49pm

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chornedsnorkack wrote on Aug 19^th, 2007 at 1:42pm:

Have a look at this:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1071214/L/

I am puzzled as to where this headroom comes from. Can you have anything that big in the belly hold of a 707 or 320? I mean, 392 cm cabin width would mean Tu-114 is just 40 cm wider than 707 and less than 20 cm wider than 320!

So yes, it is the fuselage height that I wonder about, from underbelly to roof. Preferrably an idea of how this is divided (underbelly to kitchen floor, headroom kitchen floor to kitchen ceiling, thickness of deck and deck beams from ceiling to floor... cabin height is quoted as 218 cm, then roof thickness from ceiling to rooftop... this sort of thing).

The comment on that picture is "Kitchen on a technical floor" which suggests to me that perhaps this tu114 has had another floor added....hence the low headroom, rather like a mezzanine (is that how you spell it lol)

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Reply #16 - Aug 19^th, 2007 at 1:59pm

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chornedsnorkack wrote on Aug 19^th, 2007 at 1:42pm:

Have a look at this:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1071214/L/

I am puzzled as to where this headroom comes from. Can you have anything that big in the belly hold of a 707 or 320? I mean, 392 cm cabin width would mean Tu-114 is just 40 cm wider than 707 and less than 20 cm wider than 320!

So yes, it is the fuselage height that I wonder about, from underbelly to roof. Preferrably an idea of how this is divided (underbelly to kitchen floor, headroom kitchen floor to kitchen ceiling, thickness of deck and deck beams from ceiling to floor... cabin height is quoted as 218 cm, then roof thickness from ceiling to rooftop... this sort of thing).

Ahhhh, Ok.

Firstly this:

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Max Height : 2.18 m (7 ft 2 in

looks wrong with the quoted 12' width - that would make the fuselage and oval shape. Maybe this is from cabin floor to the ceiling?

Looking at external photos of the aircraft I'd say this is behind the Nav compartment with the entrance to the cockpit above it. Or even underneath the cockpit - hence the extra height available in the compartment.

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Reply #17 - Aug 19^th, 2007 at 3:58pm

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Kitchen is on same level as the cargo deck. Below the passengers cabin

Dimensions wise the fuselage comes very close to that of the Boeing 767... only 20% narrower than the Boeing.

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I'm not sure of the height but I believe that feature is because the Tu114 started life as a bomber, and the large nosewheel was to make more space for loading bombs...

It turned out to be a real pain at airports 'cos they had to have specialist steps made for them...

Because it uses the same wing as a Tu-95 but lowered in relation to the fuselage (Tu-95 is a shoulder wing... halfway the height while the Tu-114 is a low wing plane), they had to make the nosegear longer to keep the props from hitting the ground. Maingear is the same as on a Tu-95, as the prop clearance is the same.

For a sense of scale... the nosegear leg alone is over 3 meters high.

Russian planes: IL-76 (all standard length ones), Tu-154 and Il-62, Tu-134 and An-24RV&&&&AI flightplans and repaints can be found here

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Reply #18 - Aug 20^th, 2007 at 2:11pm

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Ivan wrote on Aug 19^th, 2007 at 3:58pm:

Kitchen is on same level as the cargo deck. Below the passengers cabin

Dimensions wise the fuselage comes very close to that of the Boeing 767... only 20% narrower than the Boeing.

Boeing 767 is about 541 cm high. Is it the height of Tu-114, too?

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