Simviation Forum - 2 questions left for AI-traffic

Aug 7^th, 2007 at 7:32am

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... ok, over the last days I deeply modified the default AI database (Flighplans030528.bgl-file). Quite a lot of work, really

!

Here a short update at first:

- I had to remove all those virtual airlines (like Landmark etc.);
- since I am mostly flying in Europe, than in the U.S., I have new textures for the default 737, Europe textures (LH, BA, Turkish, LOT, HLX etc.) - which are doing fine;
- because I am using WOAI as well as PAI I afterwards re-organized the overcrowded European big Airports I am using in Germany, France, Belgium, Italy, Luxemburg, UK, Austria and Switzerland: as a result no more VFR is leaving / arriving those international airports, no more Cessnas & Mooneys, and only "real" airlines are coming and going ... looks good!
- the small single-engine VFR airplanes all got correct callsigns, for example in Germany it's mostly D-Exxx, in Austria OE-Exxx, Switzerland HB-xxx and so on ... finally the flighplans were modified, coming and going to the minor airfields;
- for the IFR: mostly same was done for the big airports in the US, KLAX, KJFK, KSAN and some others.

What is left to do - and what I cannot solve without your input:

1.) when taking a look into the "aircraft030528.txt" (decompiled with TTools from the bgl-file) I have the "AC#32", "AC#33" and "AC#34" as well as "AC#46", "AC#47", "AC#48" (Dash 8-100s and MD83s) which I cannot find anyweher else to change them away from the virtual textures up to real textures ... where are those aircrafts to find? How to change the textures?? Any input??

2.) I still do not fuly understand the Flighplans030528.txt lines: ok, here we go -

AC#50,N11288,71%,6Hr,VFR,01:52:38,04:07:34,145,F,4099,F56,04:52:41,07:07:37,135,
F,4100,KLI

... means:

AC#50 - aircraft number 50, ok!
N11288 - callsign, ok!
71% - ????
6 Hr - ????
VFR - ok!
01:52:38 - ????
04:07:34 - ????
145 - Flighlevel, OK!
F - ????
4099 - Fligh Number, ok!
F56 - departing from, ok!
04:52:41 - ????
07:07:37,135 - ????
F - ????
4100 - Flighlevel, ok!
KLI - arriving at, ok!

Many good landings,
WP

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Reply #1 - Aug 7^th, 2007 at 9:22am

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1)If you can't find repaints you should be able to find AI aircraft in realistic paints to substitute. You can even substitute different aircraft, and as long as the cruise speed is similar you'll only have to modify the Aircraft.txt file.
Try: AI-Aardvark for their MD-8x AI models.
PAI has Dash 8 and MD-8x AI models.

2)The help file, 'Readme.htm', describes each item in detail in section '21:FlightPlan...txt file'. You should really use it..it's excellant......and it's FREE!!! Wink

AC#50,N11288,71%,6Hr,VFR,01:52:38,04:07:34,145,F,4099,F56,04:52:41,07:07:37,135,

F,4100,KLI

... means:

AC#50 - aircraft number 50, ok!
N11288 - callsign, ok!
71% - ???? <- your 'traffic density' slider must be 71% or greater for this flight to show
6 Hr - ???? <- This flight plan will repeat every 6 hours
VFR - ok!
01:52:38 - ???? <--1st leg initiate departure sequence at KLI. All times are GMT.
04:07:34 - ???? <--1st leg estimated arrival in the airspace at destination airport, F56
145 - Flighlevel, OK!
F - ???? <-----ATC will use either 'F'=flight number or 'R'=registration number when communicating
4099 - Fligh Number, ok!
F56 - departing from, ok!
04:52:41 - ???? <---2nd leg initiate departure sequence from F56
07:07:37,135 - ???? <--2nd leg estimated arrival in KLI airspace
F - ???? <--same as above
4100 - Flighlevel, ok! <-- 410,000 ft.?? actually this is the flight #, flight level is missing
KLI - arriving at, ok!

Dave

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Reply #2 - Aug 7^th, 2007 at 10:02am

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@Dave: thanks!! And of course: the "Flighlevel" was wrong, I meant "Flight #" of course

... it's not a moon-rocket *gg* ...

However, as for the communication (F or R) - what is realistic? I assume R is the better choice than, correct?

Greetings
WP

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Reply #3 - Aug 7^th, 2007 at 10:14am

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As far as I know:

Scheduled commercial flights usually use airline callsign + flight number--F

General aviation use registration number--R

Dave

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Reply #4 - Aug 7^th, 2007 at 10:15am

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@Dave again: well, the problem with the MDs and Dash 8-100 is the following: I cannot find the original ones FS9 is using. Where can I find them? Actually, they are definitely not in the "aircraft"-folder ... I even cannot chose them for flying. They simply are not existing.

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Reply #5 - Aug 7^th, 2007 at 10:56am

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In working with AI traffic files TTools is the thing that does the "work". But boy is it a pain to work WITH. Like reading Greek.

I find that one of the "front ends" for TTools helps a LOT. Like AITrafficMover or YRoute.

Makes all this stuff MUCH easier.

You'll find the freeware AITrafficMover on this page:

http://www.molitor-home.de/FS/default.asp

And YRoute here:

http://www.spacejock.com/yRoute.html

best,

....................john

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Reply #6 - Aug 7^th, 2007 at 2:46pm

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They are in your 'aircraft' folder (unless you removed them): 'dh_dash8_100' and 'md_83'.

You can't see them in 'Select Aircraft' as they are configured as AI only.

Dave

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