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Jul 14th, 2007 at 1:31pm

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in a few years i have a gap year at school. in that time i wish to fly to florida (hopefully not me doing the flying quite yet) and then learn to become a pilot

how much could you expect to pay to go from complete never-touched-the-controls newbie, to someone that can fly a prop or better on their own?

i wish to become an airline pilot in my later years so if anyone can reccomend what i will need for that, or how much it couls cost me... i would be very grateful to hear it!

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Reply #1 - Jul 14th, 2007 at 2:12pm

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machineman9 wrote on Jul 14th, 2007 at 1:31pm:
in a few years i have a gap year at school. in that time i wish to fly to florida (hopefully not me doing the flying quite yet) and then learn to become a pilot

how much could you expect to pay to go from complete never-touched-the-controls newbie, to someone that can fly a prop or better on their own?

i wish to become an airline pilot in my later years so if anyone can reccomend what i will need for that, or how much it couls cost me... i would be very grateful to hear it!

cheers

got any more questions..? please do ask


Very roughly, your Private Pilots License training in a US flying school would be about 1/2 the cost of a UK school (around £2500), plus air fares and living costs is still about 2/3 of what you'd pay in the UK(not much change, if any, from £5000)

Here's a good link, well worth reading - http://www.flightstore.co.uk/lounge.learningtofly_ukusa.html

Commercial licenses, depending on whether you can get sponsorship or take out an airline sponsored bond, such as with [url=CTC Wings]http://www.ctcaviation.com/wings/[/url] can vary from being zero initial outlay, to tens of thousands of pounds.
 
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Reply #2 - Jul 14th, 2007 at 2:40pm

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hmm, that seems quite cheap for private pilot licenses

yeh, i heard you could get funding from the airlines too... i might look into that aswell
 

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Reply #3 - Jul 14th, 2007 at 2:46pm

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machineman9 wrote on Jul 14th, 2007 at 2:40pm:
hmm, that seems quite cheap for private pilot licenses

yeh, i heard you could get funding from the airlines too... i might look into that aswell


Look into every possible avenue, even the RAF/RN/Army (in that order!) Wink
 
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Reply #4 - Jul 14th, 2007 at 3:00pm

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Charlie wrote on Jul 14th, 2007 at 2:46pm:
machineman9 wrote on Jul 14th, 2007 at 2:40pm:
hmm, that seems quite cheap for private pilot licenses

yeh, i heard you could get funding from the airlines too... i might look into that aswell


Look into every possible avenue, even the RAF/RN/Army (in that order!) Wink

well, i am currently an air cadet hehe
 

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Reply #5 - Jul 14th, 2007 at 3:11pm

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machineman9 wrote on Jul 14th, 2007 at 3:00pm:
Charlie wrote on Jul 14th, 2007 at 2:46pm:
machineman9 wrote on Jul 14th, 2007 at 2:40pm:
hmm, that seems quite cheap for private pilot licenses

yeh, i heard you could get funding from the airlines too... i might look into that aswell


Look into every possible avenue, even the RAF/RN/Army (in that order!) Wink

well, i am currently an air cadet hehe


Well, if you can stomach 10-18 years in the RAF, and pay which isn't too far off what decent airlines pay (and more than a FO for SqueezyJet or Seanair), then that could be the way forward. More "interesting" flying potentially too (not saying that "take off - autopilot engaged - read a book - autopilot disengaged - land" is boring!)..
 
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Reply #6 - Jul 14th, 2007 at 3:13pm

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Charlie wrote on Jul 14th, 2007 at 3:11pm:
machineman9 wrote on Jul 14th, 2007 at 3:00pm:
Charlie wrote on Jul 14th, 2007 at 2:46pm:
machineman9 wrote on Jul 14th, 2007 at 2:40pm:
hmm, that seems quite cheap for private pilot licenses

yeh, i heard you could get funding from the airlines too... i might look into that aswell


Look into every possible avenue, even the RAF/RN/Army (in that order!) Wink

well, i am currently an air cadet hehe


Well, if you can stomach 10-18 years in the RAF, and pay which isn't too far off what decent airlines pay (and more than a FO for SqueezyJet or Seanair), then that could be the way forward. More "interesting" flying potentially too (not saying that "take off - autopilot engaged - read a book - autopilot disengaged - land" is boring!)..

hmm, the RAF is a posibility... i will have to think about it. thanks
 

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Reply #7 - Jul 15th, 2007 at 4:22pm

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too bad the URL doesnt work (not that i know)

ooooh... ozzy... any help?
 

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Reply #8 - Jul 15th, 2007 at 4:48pm

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machineman9 wrote on Jul 15th, 2007 at 4:22pm:
too bad the URL doesnt work (not that i know)

ooooh... ozzy... any help?


Which URL?

If you mean this one, I c**ked up!

CTC Wings Grin
 
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Reply #9 - Jul 15th, 2007 at 4:50pm

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Charlie wrote on Jul 15th, 2007 at 4:48pm:
machineman9 wrote on Jul 15th, 2007 at 4:22pm:
too bad the URL doesnt work (not that i know)

ooooh... ozzy... any help?


Which URL?

someone posted some porno above that message
 

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Reply #10 - Jul 15th, 2007 at 5:05pm

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machineman9 wrote on Jul 15th, 2007 at 4:50pm:
Charlie wrote on Jul 15th, 2007 at 4:48pm:
machineman9 wrote on Jul 15th, 2007 at 4:22pm:
too bad the URL doesnt work (not that i know)

ooooh... ozzy... any help?


Which URL?

someone posted some porno above that message


Ah, yes... Roll Eyes
 
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Reply #11 - Jul 16th, 2007 at 10:06am

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Other than the military route, consider a college with an aviation program... if you really want an airline job, a "fall back" degree in something not directly related would be smart.

Good luck, and be prepared to make really lousy money with the airlines at first, even in the US. It's not what it used to be.
 

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Reply #12 - Jul 16th, 2007 at 10:14am

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beaky wrote on Jul 16th, 2007 at 10:06am:
Other than the military route, consider a college with an aviation program... if you really want an airline job, a "fall back" degree in something not directly related would be smart.


In the Uk you would have to temper that with the fact that since our current government has made going to university a lot more expensive that it used to be (unless you're Scottish, surprise surprise), if you then chose to self fund your training you could find yourself in £20K of debt before you've started, unless you have rich parents! Grin
 
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Reply #13 - Jul 16th, 2007 at 12:36pm

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Charlie wrote on Jul 16th, 2007 at 10:14am:
beaky wrote on Jul 16th, 2007 at 10:06am:
Other than the military route, consider a college with an aviation program... if you really want an airline job, a "fall back" degree in something not directly related would be smart.


In the Uk you would have to temper that with the fact that since our current government has made going to university a lot more expensive that it used to be (unless you're Scottish, surprise surprise), if you then chose to self fund your training you could find yourself in £20K of debt before you've started, unless you have rich parents! Grin


True, true... in that regard, professional flight training is like becoming a doctor... only without the payoff at the end. Grin

But there are student loans, grants, scholarships, etc... if I was 14 and was sure I wanted to pursue that career I'd be researching all of that right now.



 

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Reply #14 - Jul 16th, 2007 at 1:27pm

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i doubt 'piloting' could come out of my dad's company funds lol.

still, i am thinking about mostly every option right now. i still want to persue other airlines to see if i can get funding from them too
 

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Reply #15 - Jul 17th, 2007 at 3:24am

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I have been flying since I was 8 but back then it was cheaper cause of the lower fuel costs. I started my proper flight training last year and hopefully look to get into the airlines one day. As for cost, for a PPL in Australian dollars your looking at around $25,000 to about $30,000, I don't know what that equals in Britain currency or American Dollars. For a CPL its upwards of Aus $50,000 but on top of that there are endorsements. As long as you stay motivated, your on track to a rewarding career in aviation. Like me Wink

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Reply #16 - Jul 17th, 2007 at 5:28am

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Mitch. wrote on Jul 17th, 2007 at 3:24am:
As for cost, for a PPL in Australian dollars your looking at around $25,000 to about $30,000,


Seems a little steep. RVAC in Melbourne quote about AUS$12,000 for a PPL (all inclusive), although admit that on average most students take about 65hrs, so raising the cost to about AUS$16,500... Airbourne Aviation (Sydney) seem to back that up too - their most expensive being AUS$13500 on new C172s... Smiley
 
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Reply #17 - Jul 17th, 2007 at 6:46am

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Charlie wrote on Jul 17th, 2007 at 5:28am:
Mitch. wrote on Jul 17th, 2007 at 3:24am:
As for cost, for a PPL in Australian dollars your looking at around $25,000 to about $30,000,


Seems a little steep. RVAC in Melbourne quote about AUS$12,000 for a PPL (all inclusive), although admit that on average most students take about 65hrs, so raising the cost to about AUS$16,500... Airbourne Aviation (Sydney) seem to back that up too - their most expensive being AUS$13500 on new C172s... Smiley


Ok, you've got me there. I may have rushed those figures there but after a bit more research I found that an average of Aus $20,000 tops for a PPL and Aus $35,000 for a CPL.

Thanks for that Charlie. I might have scared people off with those figures Wink
 


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Reply #18 - Jul 28th, 2007 at 7:55am

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i know how u feel..

im very confused about how to pay it off when it comes, but i KNOW in myheart, i will fly one day..i know it, =D
 

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