Well it was confirmed by a few people so there's gotta be some logic to it. Unless they were all on 'shrooms. 

'Shrooms. Definately.

i cant imagine what it must feel like to see something strange in the afternoon sky... and then you say "im not saying its from another world... im just saying that in all my years of flying i have never seen anything like it" and in an instant everyone discredits you... questions your sanity... questions your ability to tell a jet airplane from a hole in the ground and flat out doesn't believe that you or half a dozen other people really saw anything.

Science has failed us miserably in the regard of UFO investigation; Science is supposed to question the mainstream, science is supposed to go out on the limb and investigate and either prove or disprove a hypothesis while maintaining an open mind, yet for some reason though, the subject of UFOs or anything having to do with the possibility of alien life or someone actually claiming to see one of these things is shunned and shrugged off as if the person were a complete idiot or insane or on drugs.

It must be incredibly difficult and frustrating to see something like that - and when you prod around and try to figure out what it is everyone instantly discredits you.

personally i think that human beings have put forth the most supreme display of arrogance by believing it impossible that in all of the infinite universe earth is the only object floating in the vastness of space capable of supporting any kind of life.i would rather believe that it is possible and be proven wrong... than be a complete arrogant fool and believe it impossible that life exists on other planets.

your right Hagar... but - the pilot said "IM NOT SAYING THIS IS FROM ANOTHER WORLD... im just saying that i have never seen anything like it before"

it could have been any one of hundreds of things floating up there...

but that doesnt dismiss people from claiming you're an idiot for seeing it.

Hagar wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2007 at 6:12pm:


'Pends on the weather. Clouds or haze between the object and the shoreline, maybe... being airborne, the pilot and pax might have a better view.

There have been many UFOs (NOT necessarily spacecraft, just unidentified flying objects) reported by airmen over the years... I tend to doubt those less than most, because professional pilots risk a great deal by admitting they saw something like that.
They're also usually very familiar with a wide variety of aircraft and, of course, odd weather phenomena.
People tend to assume they were tripping on mushrooms ( as if you could even successfully start an airliner while so impaired! LOL!)... or that they're just plain nuts.

He must have seen something. UFO? Doubtful. Hallucination? Doubtful - plenty of other people saw it, and their descriptions of it were all the same. Probably some kind of previously unobserved atmospheric phenomenon. Could it possibly have been ball lightning?

Hagar wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2007 at 5:13pm:


People think it might be from another world because they want to believe they might have seen a proper 'flying saucer'. Saying it probably originated on our own planet sounds too mundane for most people, and their wild imaginations tend to take over. Sad but true. Glad to see the pilot kept a modicombe of common sense by saying it most likely wasn't from 'another world' (cue dramatic music)

Good afternoon all. 

I thought I would check out the forums while waiting for the old girl to arrive home, seems they are stuck in traffic on Highway 401 so they will be a couple of more hours.  So much for the reservations I made to take them out for dinner.

Now back to the topic, firstly I try to stay away from most controversial topics because everyone is entitled to his or her opinion. 
I also find this type of topic can profile a person and this can be very misleading at times. 

I have been flying for more than half a century, I have flown with some of the best aviators be they military, commercial or general aviation, some just starting their careers and others just about to retire.  When a topic like Unidentified Flying Objects "UFOs", the Devils Triangle, Area 51, Superstition or God (now there is a good one) activates or sparks a creative intellectual conversation in public I have never known an aviator NOT to express his or her honest opinion.

Now, having said that, there are proper communications protocol that are in place when, a pilot or an employee, when employed by a Commercial Air Carrier, the Military or is a Civil Service Employee.  Unless National Security will be compromised, then there is no reason other than personal a pilot or who ever would not talk about controversial topics such as Unidentified Flying Objects.

Not only has television, radio and the movies "Hollywood" tried to change history, but it has influenced and molded the general public to the way many folks think and act today.
I know an aviator who said he saw a Unidentified Flying Object, and that is exactly what he saw, an unidentified flying object.  He and his crew were not sent to see a psychiatrist/shrink or any doctor, but Hollywood would have you believe that is the first thing the company or government would do to you.
A pilot has an accident, they don't just send him off to a psychiatrist/shrink, sure they will check his medical history, his logbook and determine what caused the accident.  Then remedial action is taken.

Freedom of the Press, yes I am all for it, I believe in it to a point, however in this country the press can be held liable for what they print and a simple printed retraction is not good enough anymore.  Many a career is lost when the poper facts are not reported.

I guess in summing up I would have to say, don't believe everything you see on television, the movies or read in a newspaper.  They are at best mediums for entertainment.   

There is my two cents worth.   

Cheers...Happy Landings...Doug