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Jun 4th, 2007 at 11:11pm

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Ok so here we go, in about a month im going to be buying a DSLR Camera and I would like some input.  Ive been looking at either Cannon (personal favorite) or Nicon (I think) such as the D20. Id prefer something less then $1000 and of course it will be for aviation photography so could someone reccomend a good 300mm+ Lens in addition to a standard lens?

Im hopeing for a 8-10mp rage for quality and am really likeing the Cannon Rebel XLI but after playing with a D20 in Best Buy I really liked the quality. So im totally open for suggestions and would love to have some guidence from some experienced users. Maby some positive and negitive aspects to the cameras?

Thanks ahead guys  Grin Smiley
 

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Reply #1 - Jun 4th, 2007 at 11:26pm

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I like my Nikon D40 a lot. It has a 50 to 225mm lens. Don't know if it is standard though. Tongue $800 US
 

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Reply #2 - Jun 5th, 2007 at 1:03pm

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I love my Conon 400D (probably the XLi in US)...I use it with the canon EF75-300mm F4-5.6 which you can pick up for £150 here in the UK...excellent picture quality and access to thousands of top quality lenses...in fact I am saving up for a bit of L glass at the moment...possibly 100-400mm or just the 400mm Wink....gonna rent one for the air tattoo and see if I like it Wink

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Reply #3 - Jun 5th, 2007 at 2:48pm

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fighter25 wrote on Jun 4th, 2007 at 11:26pm:
I like my Nikon D40 a lot. It has a 50 to 225mm lens. Don't know if it is standard though. Tongue $800 US


I love mine  Cool mine has the 18-55mm lense f/3.5-5.6 AF-S. The only catch with the D40 is that it has very limited lense compatibility. There are only a few models that will work with it  Sad
 

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Reply #4 - Jun 5th, 2007 at 3:58pm

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Mictheslik wrote on Jun 5th, 2007 at 1:03pm:
I am saving up for a bit of L glass at the moment...possibly 100-400mm or just the 400mm Wink....gonna rent one for the air tattoo and see if I like it Wink


Watch out for the crop factor, the smaller sensor will multiply the focal length on anything but the EF-S lenses.

A fixed 400mm will be........what......640mm  Shocked

You'll need to stand in the car-park to get them in the frame  Grin  Wink

Where can you rent lenses?

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Reply #5 - Jun 5th, 2007 at 4:06pm
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61_OTU wrote on Jun 5th, 2007 at 3:58pm:
Mictheslik wrote on Jun 5th, 2007 at 1:03pm:
I am saving up for a bit of L glass at the moment...possibly 100-400mm or just the 400mm Wink....gonna rent one for the air tattoo and see if I like it Wink


A fixed 400mm will be........what......640mm  Shocked

You'll need to stand in the car-park to get them in the frame  Grin  Wink


I was on the crowdline at Breighton. Wink Even that amount of zoom isn't enough for anything at RIAT bar straight and level passes and takeoff/landings really.
 
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Reply #6 - Jun 5th, 2007 at 4:19pm

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61_OTU wrote on Jun 5th, 2007 at 3:58pm:
Where can you rent lenses?



I'm gonna ask at my local camera shop, as I know the owners very well, but if they refuse I'll pay Calumet for their weekend service...the problem is you have to put down a deposit of the full cost of the lens...luckily they take credit cards Cheesy

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Reply #7 - Jun 5th, 2007 at 5:44pm

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I was on the crowdline at Breighton. Wink Even that amount of zoom isn't enough for anything at RIAT bar straight and level passes and takeoff/landings really.


Ah....that's true, I keep forgetting that your 10D has the same crop factor......when are you going to upgrade to a 5D Steve?  Wink
 
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Reply #8 - Jun 5th, 2007 at 5:52pm
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61_OTU wrote on Jun 5th, 2007 at 5:44pm:
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I was on the crowdline at Breighton. Wink Even that amount of zoom isn't enough for anything at RIAT bar straight and level passes and takeoff/landings really.


Ah....that's true, I keep forgetting that your 10D has the same crop factor......when are you going to upgrade to a 5D Steve?  Wink

No time soon, my 10d is perfect for the job and I really like it, no need to upgrade at all. People overestimate the value of having a super duper camera body, it's the lens that makes or breaks image quality, unless you're a pro you don't really notice the differences between two slightly different level DSLRs. Grin
 
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Reply #9 - Jun 5th, 2007 at 6:15pm

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People overestimate the value of having a super duper camera body, it's the lens that makes or breaks image quality, unless you're a pro you don't really notice the differences between two slightly different level DSLRs. Grin


A fair point.......meanwhile this thread has become a bit Canon-centric. I really liked the look of the Pentax K10D, with all it's fancy weather seals and image stabilisation built in.....not sure what the US model/price is though.....
 
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Reply #10 - Jun 5th, 2007 at 9:56pm

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Thanks for the info, but so far it seems nobody has used the Rebel XLI. I was hoping to get some opinions about that.

As far as lenses, I'm aware that its the lens not the camera body that makes the shot. So where would I find a good lens and where would you guys recommend to look?
 

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Reply #11 - Jun 6th, 2007 at 5:52am

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BAW0343 wrote on Jun 5th, 2007 at 9:56pm:
Thanks for the info, but so far it seems nobody has used the Rebel XLI. I was hoping to get some opinions about that.

I can't find the XLi listed. http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ProductCatIndexAct&fcategoryid=...

The orginal DSLR in this range was the Digital Rebel or 300D. Several forum members use it including Craig. I have the Canon 350D which is known in the US as the Digital Rebel XT. I'm very pleased with it but, as Heathaze points out, the lens is the important bit. I would have gone for the later 400D (Rebel XTi) if it had been available at the time.

One thing nobody seems to warn you about with DSLR cameras is the problem with dust on the sensor (dust bunnies). This can be a real nuisance, especially if you swap lenses several times during a session. Cleaning the sensor is tricky & not recommended for the faint-hearted. The 400D (XTi) is the first Canon DSLR to address this problem with the EOS Integrated Cleaning System including an automatic self-cleaning sensor that operates every time the camera is switched on. I don't know how successful this is. Perhaps Mic or other 400D users can tell us.
 

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Reply #12 - Jun 6th, 2007 at 8:58am

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I have the XTI. I have had it for 4 months, One of the best things I have ever bought, but I am a Canon fan, I've been using Canon since 1980, without any problems, I read alot and asked all these guys in this forum (who are some great photographers), when I was trying to decide on what to by.  The XTI is what I got.
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As far as dust, I have not had any problem with that, so I guess the cleaning system works. Steve and Doug are correct in the infomation about the len is where you want to put the money, in a few years you might want to get a new body with all the new advances that they will have by then, so it less expensive to get a new body that will work with all the lens you collect. Thats why I stay with the Canon lens. On where to find lens, there are alot of On line photo stores, that give alot of information. I found a lot of the stores in the back of a Photography magazine. Hope this helps, Mark
 

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Reply #13 - Jun 6th, 2007 at 11:07am

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There is still an unmentioned line of D-SLRs ........  Olympus......I have used the Olympus E-500 for over a year now and am quite happy 'cept for one missing feature.......image stabilization.......this has been rectified with the soon to be released E-510. This new camera has been bumped up to a 10MP image sensor and includes an in-body image stabilization system which can be set to cancel unwanted motion in various ways......huge benefit of this system is that all previous lenses will use the stabilization system because it's in the body and accordingly the lenses should have a lower price than those which have the stabilization system in the lens itself.

As far as dust control, I have changed lenses many times over, by crouching down beside the runway, on the grass, and often put one lens down while switching the mount-cap between the lens from the bag and the one from the body.
I haven't had anything resembling dust on any image so far.....none which I have seen, and nobody here has mentioned any to me.  I would openly admit such a short-coming to eveyone and not advise purchase to a new user.

In addition to the new features, this line (Olympus) is the first to feature "Live View"......this is the ability to view onscreen while holding the camera in any position necessary....... the eye-level viewfinder is not an electronic LCD as some may suspect, it's the "through-lens" glass view which every SLR user expects to see.........another great innovation.....imagine, holding your D-SLR high up, to get rid of unwanted heads of taller people in front of your view..........great idea !

When finances allow, you can rest assured, I'll be getting the new Evolt E-510 body to compliment my setup......
 

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Reply #14 - Jun 6th, 2007 at 11:22am

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Rifleman wrote on Jun 6th, 2007 at 11:07am:
As far as dust control, I have changed lenses many times over, by crouching down beside the runway, on the grass, and often put one lens down while switching the mount-cap between the lens from the bag and the one from the body.
I haven't had anything resembling dust on any image so far.....none which I have seen, and nobody here has mentioned any to me.  I would openly admit such a short-coming to eveyone and not advise purchase to a new user.

There could be a very good reason for that. I seem to remember you telling us that your E-500 has a similar sensor cleaning feature to the one on the Canon 400D. In fact I believe the Olympus E-300 was the first DSLR of any make to have this feature. I was referring to camera sale assistants rather than members of this forum.
 

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