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Jun 1^st, 2007 at 6:22pm

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First look at this. Now I have my resoultions set to the highest they can be in the sim but for some reason they don't look as good in the shot as they do in the sim. What should I do here?

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Reply #1 - Jun 1^st, 2007 at 6:26pm

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Get the Recorder and some great scenery. In this shot the lighting is ok but it could be better. Try angles and other addons, weather, and time settings to improve. Wink

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Reply #2 - Jun 1^st, 2007 at 9:29pm

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No a1, the problem here is the compression. Get Irfan View (google it!) murjax. Wink

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Reply #3 - Jun 1^st, 2007 at 10:38pm

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No a1, the problem here is the compression. Get Irfan View (google it!) murjax. Wink

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I already have that. Now how do I fix this compression problem?

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Reply #4 - Jun 1^st, 2007 at 11:12pm

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You go in Irfanview and hit "Save As" to wherever and on the side there should be a window with sliders. On the sliders drag it to around 90-95 for most screenshots until you get as close as you can to 100Kb. That should help. post a pic of what you did. Wink

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Reply #5 - Jun 2^nd, 2007 at 12:03am

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Ok here's a pic of what I did to it and here's the result. When I clicked "Save As" the bar was already at 80 and as you see I just hit it up to 95. I personally don't see any difference. Do you?

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Reply #6 - Jun 2^nd, 2007 at 8:30am

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When you take the shot, make sure it's saved as a bitmap (*.BMP). After that open the shot in Irfanview and resize is to 800 pixels wide max. Then save it as a *.jpg. Move the slider so the filesize is just under 100 KB. I'm not sure, but I think you can see the filesize in the statusbox on the bottom of the screen.

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Reply #7 - Jun 2^nd, 2007 at 10:10am

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murjax wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2007 at 12:03am:

Ok here's a pic of what I did to it [img] and here's the result. [img] When I clicked "Save As" the bar was already at 80 and as you see I just hit it up to 95. I personally don't see any difference. Do you?

Is that possible on MS PAint?

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Reply #8 - Jun 2^nd, 2007 at 11:16am

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bok269 wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2007 at 10:10am:

murjax wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2007 at 12:03am:

Ok here's a pic of what I did to it [img] When I clicked "Save As" the bar was already at 80 and as you see I just hit it up to 95. I personally don't see any difference. Do you?

Is that possible on MS PAint?

no

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Reply #9 - Jun 2^nd, 2007 at 12:26pm

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I take it you mean it's blurry. Yes. FS9 pics have a certain haze over them, try using the sharpening option Wink

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Reply #10 - Jun 2^nd, 2007 at 12:30pm

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Here, sharpened it Wink

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Reply #11 - Jun 3^rd, 2007 at 10:15am

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Sytse wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2007 at 8:30am:

When you take the shot, make sure it's saved as a bitmap (*.BMP). After that open the shot in Irfanview and resize is to 800 pixels wide max. Then save it as a *.jpg. Move the slider so the filesize is just under 100 KB. I'm not sure, but I think you can see the filesize in the statusbox on the bottom of the screen.

I did what you said but the file size is over 100 no matter what I do. I also sharpened it. Now what do I do? Undecided

Undecided

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Reply #12 - Jun 4^th, 2007 at 3:24pm

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murjax wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2007 at 10:15am:

Sytse wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2007 at 8:30am:

When you take the shot, make sure it's saved as a bitmap (*.BMP). After that open the shot in Irfanview and resize is to 800 pixels wide max. Then save it as a *.jpg. Move the slider so the filesize is just under 100 KB. I'm not sure, but I think you can see the filesize in the statusbox on the bottom of the screen.

I did what you said but the file size is over 100 no matter what I do. I also sharpened it. Now what do I do? Undecided

Undecided

Is anybody going to help me?

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Reply #13 - Jun 4^th, 2007 at 3:29pm

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murjax wrote on Jun 4^th, 2007 at 3:24pm:

murjax wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2007 at 10:15am:

Sytse wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2007 at 8:30am:

When you take the shot, make sure it's saved as a bitmap (*.BMP). After that open the shot in Irfanview and resize is to 800 pixels wide max. Then save it as a *.jpg. Move the slider so the filesize is just under 100 KB. I'm not sure, but I think you can see the filesize in the statusbox on the bottom of the screen.

I did what you said but the file size is over 100 no matter what I do. I also sharpened it. Now what do I do? Undecided

Undecided

Is anybody going to help me?

Make sure you're checking the size of the compressed file after you save it. The best way is to right-click on it & select Properties.

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Reply #14 - Jun 4^th, 2007 at 4:09pm

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I just had a look at Irfanview and it's hard to get your pics under 100 KB without seeing what you're doing. I always use photoshop. There I can just set the filesize to 100 KB and photoshop will save the image as the cosest value under 100 KB, mostly 98 KB or so... Irfanview doesn't gve you that option. Undecided

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So.... You'll have to experiment! Cheesy

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Don't set the slider all the way to 100, but try 85 for instance. If the pic is still over 100 KB after that, try again using an even lower value. But whatever you do, DON'T create a .jpg pic out of a .jpg! If you saved the pic and it's over 100 KB, just throw it away and start out again with the .BMP version! Wink

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hope this helps...

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Reply #15 - Jun 5^th, 2007 at 11:05pm

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Ok I was able to get the compression up to 82 while keeping it below 100. I also sharpened it again. Here's the result. So what do you think? Is there anymore that should be done with it?

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Reply #16 - Jun 6^th, 2007 at 2:32am

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The first shot: The plane blends into the background so to speak, the default scenery isn't very good, lighting is boring... to dark. Set the time back and hour and then turn the Camera so you're looking in the opposite direction.

The A380 shot:
Default scenery is bad
That plane doesn't look very detailed.
To bright and white.

Getting better though....

Take a look at these shots:
http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1181107638

Notice anything?

The plane NEVER touches the horizon, that just blocks the view and looks messy.

Some thing is interesting in each shot:
Shot one: Nice clouds, photoscenery, plane is lit up by the sun.
Shot two: Photoscenery, sun, clouds, sky colours, camera angle
shot three: Not much interesting here...... Clouds and sky are nice as is lighting
shot four: Lots of contrast, nice sky and scenery.
shot five: Nice sky, scenery, plane has contrast.

And with each shot the scenery and planes are detailed. And the Camera is also level with the Horizon, and the whole aircraft is on each shot, nothing is cut off.

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Reply #17 - Jun 6^th, 2007 at 2:52pm

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Zerotime wrote on Jun 6^th, 2007 at 2:32am:

The first shot: The plane blends into the background so to speak, the default scenery isn't very good, lighting is boring... to dark. Set the time back and hour and then turn the Camera so you're looking in the opposite direction.

The A380 shot:
Default scenery is bad
That plane doesn't look very detailed.
To bright and white.

Getting better though....

Take a look at these shots:
http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1181107638

Notice anything?

The plane NEVER touches the horizon, that just blocks the view and looks messy.

Some thing is interesting in each shot:
Shot one: Nice clouds, photoscenery, plane is lit up by the sun.
Shot two: Photoscenery, sun, clouds, sky colours, camera angle
shot three: Not much interesting here...... Clouds and sky are nice as is lighting
shot four: Lots of contrast, nice sky and scenery.
shot five: Nice sky, scenery, plane has contrast.

And with each shot the scenery and planes are detailed. And the Camera is also level with the Horizon, and the whole aircraft is on each shot, nothing is cut off.

Do you have any recommendations as far as planes and scenery? I need to get an idea of what I should use in my screenshots.

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Reply #18 - Jun 7^th, 2007 at 1:49am

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Trying using http://www.fs-recorder.net/ for angles and views.

Airplanes? Most of mine are payware as I love the systems......... PMDG, LevelD, Wilco, Real Air, and Fly the maddog are good payware ones......

Scenery? Search for any mesh for an area that you fly in, also try sorting them by downloads so you get the most popular ones at the top. Nice payware scenery is Flight Zone. Holger Sanddmann makes nice freeware meshes.

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Reply #19 - Jun 11^th, 2007 at 7:01pm

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Zerotime wrote on Jun 7^th, 2007 at 1:49am:

Trying using http://www.fs-recorder.net/ for angles and views.

Airplanes? Most of mine are payware as I love the systems......... PMDG, LevelD, Wilco, Real Air, and Fly the maddog are good payware ones......

Scenery? Search for any mesh for an area that you fly in, also try sorting them by downloads so you get the most popular ones at the top. Nice payware scenery is Flight Zone. Holger Sanddmann makes nice freeware meshes.

Ok, I will look into these.

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