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Believe it or Not! (Read 4762 times)
May 21
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, 2007 at 7:08am
Webb
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On May 21, 1927, Charles "Lucky" Lindbergh landed his single engine aircraft, "The Spirit of St. Louis" in Paris, winning the $25,000 Orteig Prize offered to the first allied aviator(s) to fly non-stop from New York City to Paris or vice-versa.
Two years later a little known Robert "Believe it or Not!" Ripley established his own claim to fame by publishing the fact that, contrary to popular perception, Lindbergh was the 67th man to make a non-stop flight over the Atlantic. Unknown to most of the world, a two man British airplane made the Atlantic crossing in 1919. and that same year, an English dirigible flew it with a crew of 31 men. In 1924 a German dirigible repeated the Atlantic flight with its crew of 33.
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The first non-stop flight in a heavier than air craft was accomplished by
Alcock and Brown
(Newfoundland to Ireland) in 1919, winning a £10,000 prize as the first flyers to cross the Atlantic non-stop.
Lindbergh, of course, is credited with making the first
solo
nonstop flight across the Atlantic. A solo flight was not a condition of the prize.
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Also, Lindberg flew secret missions in the Pacific in P-38's. His purpose was to go over there as technical advisor. He ended up teaching P38 pilots how to get the best performance and fuel efficiency out of the aircraft for long range missions.
http://www.charleslindbergh.com/history/b24.asp
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Webb wrote
on May 21
st
, 2007 at 7:08am:
On May 21, 1927, Charles "Lucky" Lindbergh landed his single engine aircraft, "The Spirit of St. Louis" in Paris, winning the $25,000 Orteig Prize offered to the first allied aviator(s) to fly non-stop from New York City to Paris or vice-versa.
Two years later a little known Robert "Believe it or Not!" Ripley established his own claim to fame by publishing the fact that, contrary to popular perception, Lindbergh was the 67th man to make a non-stop flight over the Atlantic. Unknown to most of the world, a two man British airplane made the Atlantic crossing in 1919. and that same year, an English dirigible flew it with a crew of 31 men. In 1924 a German dirigible repeated the Atlantic flight with its crew of 33.
Link
The first non-stop flight in a heavier than air craft was accomplished by
Alcock and Brown
(Newfoundland to Ireland) in 1919, winning a £10,000 prize as the first flyers to cross the Atlantic non-stop.
Lindbergh, of course, is credited with making the first
solo
nonstop flight across the Atlantic. A solo flight was not a condition of the prize.
Crazy. This reminds me of how people think the Wright Brothers made the first flight yet there are reports of other people doing it before them. We sure do live in a world of mysteries.
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Webb wrote
on May 21
st
, 2007 at 7:08am:
The first non-stop flight in a heavier than air craft was accomplished by
Alcock and Brown
(Newfoundland to Ireland) in 1919, winning a £10,000 prize as the first flyers to cross the Atlantic non-stop.
Robert "Believe it or Not!" Ripley must have been an American. Alcock & Brown were famous throughout the world except perhaps in the USA. It takes nothing away from Lindbergh's achievement.
PS.
http://www.aviation-history.com/airmen/alcock.htm
The New York Times – June 16, 1919
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May 25
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murjax wrote
on May 25
th
, 2007 at 9:51am:
Webb wrote
on May 21
st
, 2007 at 7:08am:
On May 21, 1927, Charles "Lucky" Lindbergh landed his single engine aircraft, "The Spirit of St. Louis" in Paris, winning the $25,000 Orteig Prize offered to the first allied aviator(s) to fly non-stop from New York City to Paris or vice-versa.
Two years later a little known Robert "Believe it or Not!" Ripley established his own claim to fame by publishing the fact that, contrary to popular perception, Lindbergh was the 67th man to make a non-stop flight over the Atlantic. Unknown to most of the world, a two man British airplane made the Atlantic crossing in 1919. and that same year, an English dirigible flew it with a crew of 31 men. In 1924 a German dirigible repeated the Atlantic flight with its crew of 33.
Link
The first non-stop flight in a heavier than air craft was accomplished by
Alcock and Brown
(Newfoundland to Ireland) in 1919, winning a £10,000 prize as the first flyers to cross the Atlantic non-stop.
Lindbergh, of course, is credited with making the first
solo
nonstop flight across the Atlantic. A solo flight was not a condition of the prize.
Crazy. This reminds me of how people think the Wright Brothers made the first flight yet there are reports of other people doing it before them. We sure do live in a world of mysteries.
Ask a German and they will say the first person to fly was Otto Linenthal.
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Hagar wrote
on May 25
th
, 2007 at 10:11am:
Robert "Believe it or Not!" Ripley
must have been
was an American.
Robert Leroy Ripley was born on the 25th of December, 1893, in Santa Rosa, California. Merry Christmas.
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May 25
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Hagar wrote
on May 25
th
, 2007 at 10:11am:
Robert "Believe it or Not!" Ripley must have been an American. Alcock & Brown were famous throughout the world except perhaps in the USA. It takes nothing away from Lindbergh's achievement.
Surely you know by now that Americans see nothing that happens outside of America. If Alcock and Brown had landed in the US instead of Newfoundland Americans would have been yawning over Lindbergh. Maybe. But Lindbergh was American and Alcock & Brown were English.
If you need further proof ask the average American which name sounds more familiar - Yuri Gagarin, Alan Shepard or John Glenn.
It's always nice to find someone else that shares my December 25 birthday.
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Webb wrote
on May 25
th
, 2007 at 8:11pm:
Hagar wrote
on May 25
th
, 2007 at 10:11am:
Robert "Believe it or Not!" Ripley must have been an American. Alcock & Brown were famous throughout the world except perhaps in the USA. It takes nothing away from Lindbergh's achievement.
Surely you know by now that Americans see nothing that happens outside of America. If Alcock and Brown had landed in the US instead of Newfoundland Americans would have been yawning over Lindbergh. Maybe. But Lindbergh was American and Alcock & Brown were English.
To be fair I'd never heard the name Charles Lindbergh until I saw the film "The Spirit of St. Louis" in the late 1950s. I imagine everyone with the slightest interest in aviation must have seen that film at least once. Although this one was well-made the Hollywood version of history becomes accepted as fact by the general public, even when it's far from the truth. Things might have been different if a similar film had been made about Alcock & Brown.
PS. Doesn't change your point but Alcock & Brown took of from St. John's, Newfoundland. They landed in a boggy field near the small town of Clifden, Ireland.
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May 26
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Hagar wrote
on May 26
th
, 2007 at 3:56am:
Webb wrote
on May 25
th
, 2007 at 8:11pm:
[quote author=Hagar link=1179745729/0#3 date=1180102313]
To be fair I'd never heard the name Charles Lindbergh until I saw the film "The Spirit of St. Louis" in the late 1950s. I imagine everyone with the slightest interest in aviation must have seen that film at least once.
Bugger, I thought James Stewart did it first
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Hagar wrote
on May 26
th
, 2007 at 3:56am:
Doesn't change your point but Alcock & Brown took of from St. John's, Newfoundland. They landed in a boggy field near the small town of Clifden, Ireland.
No wonder it was no big deal: Newfoundland was part of the U.K. at the time -- they only made it across the border. Sorry, got carried away by that "The border relations between Mexico and Canada have never been better," quote by Bush.
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H wrote
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Hagar wrote
on May 26
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, 2007 at 3:56am:
Doesn't change your point but Alcock & Brown took of from St. John's, Newfoundland. They landed in a boggy field near the small town of Clifden, Ireland.
No wonder it was no big deal: Newfoundland was part of the U.K. at the time -- they only made it across the border. Sorry, got carried away by that "The border relations between Mexico and Canada have never been better," quote by Bush.
A 1500 mile buffer zone, South Korea could only dream of that
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expat wrote
on May 25
th
, 2007 at 11:58am:
Ask a German and they will say the first person to fly was Otto Linenthal.
Matt
Hey Matt,as a german Citizen you should know now that the Name of this Aircraft Pioneer was Otto Lilienthal.
It looks like chicken,smells like chicken,tastes like chicken,but when Chuck Norris says its Beef...then damnit...its Beef!!!
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May 26
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Arnimon wrote
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expat wrote
on May 25
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Ask a German and they will say the first person to fly was Otto Linenthal.
Matt
Hey Matt,as a german Citizen you should know now that the Name of this Aircraft Pioneer was Otto Lilienthal.
Ah, but Arni, I said that if you asked a German. I am English, but as we used to say in a previous life, it was close enough for government work
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(Actually, it was Gustav Weisskopf (Whitehead)).
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You will be telling us Frank Whittle did not invent the jet engine next
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