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May 11th, 2007 at 9:17pm

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1-10, ten being the best, and why please Smiley

Nick.. gonna try this out to improve Cool
 
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Reply #1 - May 12th, 2007 at 12:03am

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I'll give it a 4.

Good: Nice angle, full aircraft shown

Bad: No sun, A tad bit not realistic, More weather

Try to add sun and clouds to it a bit.  Wink
 

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Reply #2 - May 12th, 2007 at 9:53am

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a1 wrote on May 12th, 2007 at 12:03am:
I'll give it a 4.

Good: Nice angle, full aircraft shown

Bad: No sun, A tad bit not realistic, More weather

Try to add sun and clouds to it a bit.  Wink


I like the fact that the weather was clearer and did that on purpose.

as for no sun, I wanted it to appear as a dreary day in the first place Wink
 
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Reply #3 - May 12th, 2007 at 12:43pm

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10 - elevator touching edge - weird black border lines - weird horizontal lines near tail section - fuzzy plane outline - colour balance = 5
 
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Reply #4 - May 12th, 2007 at 12:58pm
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yawn.. try something new and differant
 
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Reply #5 - May 12th, 2007 at 12:59pm

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Sytse wrote on May 12th, 2007 at 12:43pm:
10 - elevator touching edge - weird black border lines - weird horizontal lines near tail section - fuzzy plane outline - colour balance = 5



Huh


Sorry about the plane outline, but I had to blur it to get rid of the jaggies

color balance as in?

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Reply #6 - May 12th, 2007 at 2:50pm

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Try something other than slapping filters......
 

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Reply #7 - May 12th, 2007 at 3:24pm

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NDSP wrote on May 12th, 2007 at 12:59pm:
Sytse wrote on May 12th, 2007 at 12:43pm:
10 - elevator touching edge - weird black border lines - weird horizontal lines near tail section - fuzzy plane outline - colour balance = 5



Huh


Sorry about the plane outline, but I had to blur it to get rid of the jaggies

color balance as in?

Nick


As in not very interesting. Sorry.  Undecided

You don't need to blur the plane edges to get rid of the jaggies. Just enable Anti aliassing in the sim and take the shot at the highest possible resolution and resize later.  Wink
 
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Reply #8 - May 12th, 2007 at 6:06pm

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NDSP, you're really a glutton for punishment  Smiley

I'm starting to get the feeling you are not taking people's advice on board, and basically at this point people are going to stop replying, or run out of patience and start posting comments reflecting that.... are you really satisfied with this picture? Have you applied what people have been telling you in the making of this shot?

If you are really serious about editing and screenshooting despite having a computer that is a bit behind the times and poor editing software then to get good results you need to make sacrifices to produce a great background shot. Like Sytse says, turn up all the settings to max, use a high resolution even if you can't actually fly with the settings you are using because it's a slide show...use scenery and an interesting sky in your shot, etc, it's all been said  before. Get a good screenshot and then experiment with editing it until it looks like a good edit and then post the shot. Sorry to be harsh but I feel the advice isn't getting through and I have to say that if I see another pic of a blurred plane against a  plain sky I'm not going to comment any more....  Huh

I have worked very hard to buy all the stuff  to get my computer into decent shape just for the purpose of taking screenshots I'm happy with, because it's my main hobby in life, sad though that may be  Roll Eyes Smiley Perhaps instead of editing with paint.net you could spend time earning your way to a better comp, or at least an old version of photoshop, as you obviously are keen on editing and screenshooting but your 'tools' are holding you back. Your edit of Waspiflab's shot is my first Gallery nomination this fortnight because it's great. It's a work of art and I reckon you could get a lot of pleasure from making shots like that yourself....

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Reply #9 - May 12th, 2007 at 6:56pm

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krigl wrote on May 12th, 2007 at 6:06pm:
NDSP, you're really a glutton for punishment  Smiley

I'm starting to get the feeling you are not taking people's advice on board, and basically at this point people are going to stop replying, or run out of patience and start posting comments reflecting that.... are you really satisfied with this picture? Have you applied what people have been telling you in the making of this shot?

If you are really serious about editing and screenshooting despite having a computer that is a bit behind the times and poor editing software then to get good results you need to make sacrifices to produce a great background shot. Like Sytse says, turn up all the settings to max, use a high resolution even if you can't actually fly with the settings you are using because it's a slide show...use scenery and an interesting sky in your shot, etc, it's all been said  before. Get a good screenshot and then experiment with editing it until it looks like a good edit and then post the shot. Sorry to be harsh but I feel the advice isn't getting through and I have to say that if I see another pic of a blurred plane against a  plain sky I'm not going to comment any more....  Huh

I have worked very hard to buy all the stuff  to get my computer into decent shape just for the purpose of taking screenshots I'm happy with, because it's my main hobby in life, sad though that may be  Roll Eyes Smiley Perhaps instead of editing with paint.net you could spend time earning your way to a better comp, or at least an old version of photoshop, as you obviously are keen on editing and screenshooting but your 'tools' are holding you back. Your edit of Waspiflab's shot is my first Gallery nomination this fortnight because it's great. It's a work of art and I reckon you could get a lot of pleasure from making shots like that yourself....

Cheers

Krigl


Sorry if It doesnt appear the advice is being taken in, but mostly its all the same, and occasionally I want to make my shot appear somewhat clear Huh I dont always want all that weather and Im sorry but I dont have money for a baseball let alone a new computer Roll Eyes Im trying to improve, I really am, but my shots never look good with my own screenshots.

Also I do have all the settings to max and I do have AA checked...

Nick

 
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Reply #10 - May 12th, 2007 at 7:16pm

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Then the jaggies shouldn't be so bad. I did this composite on my old computer (P3 450 MHz, Geforce 2 64 MB), I'm sure your system is able to handle this... Wink
 
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Reply #11 - May 12th, 2007 at 7:54pm

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Sytse wrote on May 12th, 2007 at 7:16pm:
Then the jaggies shouldn't be so bad. I did this composite on my old computer (P3 450 MHz, Geforce 2 64 MB), I'm sure your system is able to handle this... Wink



That looks like a photoshop edit though Undecided
 
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Reply #12 - May 12th, 2007 at 7:57pm

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Reply #13 - May 13th, 2007 at 2:48am
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I have to agree with Krigl. You don't really seem to be taking in the advice others give.

Now, time for some constructive criticism:

The Shot - Absolutely, positively, BORING ANGLE. Not a very good choice of plane either - the Alitalia livery looks strange on the 37.

The Edit - Well...I'm afraid that without Photoshop, there really is nothing you can do. The graininess detracts from the overall realism. And...well. The graininess is all I can actually spot that is edited. Like I said, (which Monkey than copied, if I can remember correctly! Wink) try something other than slapping a filter on.

Also, like I also said before, with some of your recent edits, all you are doing is taking someone elses already brilliant shot, then adding grain/slight colour adjustment, and piggy backing off their success.
 
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Reply #14 - May 13th, 2007 at 3:29am

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The Edit - Well...I'm afraid that without Photoshop, there really is nothing you can do.

Sorry but I cannot agree with this. Owning a Stradivarius doesn't make anyone into a brilliant musician overnight. Not everyone can afford this magical program Roll Eyes. It does not guarantee success & you have to learn how to use it properly which takes time & effort. There is other graphics editing software available with similar features to Photoshop & some is completely free. I have seen masterpieces created in MS Paint. The art is in knowing how to use what you have to its best advantage.

Some people are not cut out for this sort of thing. You need a certain amount of artistic flair which I for one do not possess.

PS. My advice to Nick would be; Don't try to run before you can walk. Learn how to take your own screenshots before worrying about editing them.
 

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