Simviation Forum - In the belly of the Steel Voyager

May 11^th, 2007 at 5:38am

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This is a pic of my Uncle Bud in the belly of the Steel Voyager, a cargo ship which turned in to a merchant marine ship in the big war.
You won't see these steam gauge's in the air.

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Reply #1 - May 11^th, 2007 at 7:40am

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Now those are steam gauges... and that drum gauge, or whatever you call it... Shocked

Got any exterior pics of the Voyager?

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Reply #2 - May 11^th, 2007 at 7:45am

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beaky wrote on May 11^th, 2007 at 7:40am:

Now those are steam gauges... and that drum gauge, or whatever you call it... Shocked

Got any exterior pics of the Voyager?

gauge's Thanks for that, everything is tough this morning.

i'll be up there in NJ one of these days and take you for a trip in the Nav... still working on it Wink

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Reply #3 - May 11^th, 2007 at 8:00am

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Very interesting. Is this the ship? http://www.armed-guard.com/steelvoy.jpg

According to the records SS Steel Voyager was sunk on September 23, 1943 by torpedo from U-952 in the North Atlantic; 66 on board, no lives lost. http://www.isthmianlines.com/sa_steel_voyager.html

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Reply #4 - May 11^th, 2007 at 8:15am

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Hagar wrote on May 11^th, 2007 at 8:00am:

Very interesting. Is this the ship? http://www.armed-guard.com/steelvoy.jpg

According to the records SS Steel Voyager was sunk on September 23, 1943 by torpedo from U-952 in the North Atlantic; 66 on board, no lives lost. http://www.isthmianlines.com/sa_steel_voyager.html

My be not so, I'll have to do some more research, as he is passed on...
Correct, My Uncle Bud saved quite a few lives and he told me they stayed in the the life raft for two days and he said because of the salt water in the raft his balls swelled up to gigantic size.

I think this is a different steell voyager

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You should take a look at your own life... perhaphs get a new one Lips Sealed

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Reply #5 - May 11^th, 2007 at 8:21am

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That's really cool. I like looking at old photos of technology back then.

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Reply #6 - May 11^th, 2007 at 8:28am

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freedomhays wrote on May 11^th, 2007 at 8:15am:

Hagar wrote on May 11^th, 2007 at 8:00am:

Very interesting. Is this the ship? http://www.armed-guard.com/steelvoy.jpg

According to the records SS Steel Voyager was sunk on September 23, 1943 by torpedo from U-952 in the North Atlantic; 66 on board, no lives lost. http://www.isthmianlines.com/sa_steel_voyager.html

Correct, My Uncle Bud saved quite a few lives and he told me they stayed in the the life raft for two days and he said because of the salt water in the raft his balls swelled up to gigantic size.

I'm wondering if your Uncle Bud was torpedoed more than once. In case you didn't spot my link this is a short description of the sinking of the Steel Voyager. It gives the impression that all survivors were picked up almost immediately.

9/23 - On 9/13 the vessel departed Liverpool, UK for New York, with 2,500 tons sand ballast, John Joseph Brady Master, in Convoy ONS-18 at station #11. On 9/20 the convoy merged with ON-202 with the STEEL VOYAGER taking station as the fourth in line in the port outboard column. At 4:35 AM, position 53.30 N, 40.40 W, while steaming at 7 knots, the U-952 (Curio) fired 2 torpedos, one striking at the collision bulkhead on the starboard side, blowing the windlass and forecastle deck upward and the hatch cover off #1. While the survivors reported just 1 explosion, lookouts on nearby ships and German records report 2. The second torpedo struck in the vicinity of #2 hatch, given the description of the damage. Without orders, 7 of the merchant crew launched a lifeboat and lay off the ship's side. The Master ordered engines stopped while the damage was inspected. As the ship sank by the head and the propeller raised out of the water, the Master ordered the vessel abandoned. The remnants of the 9 officers, 30 crewman and 27 armed guards left in the remaining 3 boats. When the Canadian Corvette MORDEN (K-170) and French Corvette RENONCULE came to their assistance, the Master and crew reboarded the vessel. A Committee from the RENONCULE boarded the ship and declared her unseaworthy. The Commander advised the Master that unless the vessel could get underway immediately, it should be abandoned. With the bow down and prop out of the water, the Master ordered the ship abandoned for the final time. 35 men boarded the RENONCULE and 31 boarded the MORDEN, all landing at St. Johns, Newfoundland on 9/26. All hands survived.

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Reply #7 - May 11^th, 2007 at 8:59am

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Hagar wrote on May 11^th, 2007 at 8:28am:

freedomhays wrote on May 11^th, 2007 at 8:15am:

Hagar wrote on May 11^th, 2007 at 8:00am:

Very interesting. Is this the ship? http://www.armed-guard.com/steelvoy.jpg

According to the records SS Steel Voyager was sunk on September 23, 1943 by torpedo from U-952 in the North Atlantic; 66 on board, no lives lost. http://www.isthmianlines.com/sa_steel_voyager.html

Correct, My Uncle Bud saved quite a few lives and he told me they stayed in the the life raft for two days and he said because of the salt water in the raft his balls swelled up to gigantic size.

I'm wondering if your Uncle Bud was torpedoed more than once. In case you didn't spot my link this is a short description of the sinking of the Steel Voyager. It gives the impression that all survivors were picked up almost immediately.

9/23 - On 9/13 the vessel departed Liverpool, UK for New York, with 2,500 tons sand ballast, John Joseph Brady Master, in Convoy ONS-18 at station #11. On 9/20 the convoy merged with ON-202 with the STEEL VOYAGER taking station as the fourth in line in the port outboard column. At 4:35 AM, position 53.30 N, 40.40 W, while steaming at 7 knots, the U-952 (Curio) fired 2 torpedos, one striking at the collision bulkhead on the starboard side, blowing the windlass and forecastle deck upward and the hatch cover off #1. While the survivors reported just 1 explosion, lookouts on nearby ships and German records report 2. The second torpedo struck in the vicinity of #2 hatch, given the description of the damage. Without orders, 7 of the merchant crew launched a lifeboat and lay off the ship's side. The Master ordered engines stopped while the damage was inspected. As the ship sank by the head and the propeller raised out of the water, the Master ordered the vessel abandoned. The remnants of the 9 officers, 30 crewman and 27 armed guards left in the remaining 3 boats. When the Canadian Corvette MORDEN (K-170) and French Corvette RENONCULE came to their assistance, the Master and crew reboarded the vessel. A Committee from the RENONCULE boarded the ship and declared her unseaworthy. The Commander advised the Master that unless the vessel could get underway immediately, it should be abandoned. With the bow down and prop out of the water, the Master ordered the ship abandoned for the final time. 35 men boarded the RENONCULE and 31 boarded the MORDEN, all landing at St. Johns, Newfoundland on 9/26. All hands survived.

I think this is a different steell voyager

And also, it sadeneds me that someone is looking to defalt another person,
You should take a look at your own life... perhaphs get a new one

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Reply #8 - May 11^th, 2007 at 9:07am

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freedomhays wrote on May 11^th, 2007 at 8:59am:

And also, it sadeneds me that someone is looking to defalt another person,
You should take a look at your own life... perhaphs get a new one

Fair enough. I found this an interesting subject & thought you might do the same. I meant no offence to you or your uncle. Anyone who served in the merchant marine during WWII has my deepest respect. If you object to me commenting on your postings I'll keep quiet in future. It's no skin off my nose.

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Reply #9 - May 11^th, 2007 at 10:53am

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Hagar wrote on May 11^th, 2007 at 9:07am:

freedomhays wrote on May 11^th, 2007 at 8:59am:

And also, it sadeneds me that someone is looking to defalt another person,
You should take a look at your own life... perhaphs get a new one

Fair enough. I found this an interesting subject & thought you might do the same. I meant no offence to you or your uncle. Anyone who served in the merchant marine during WWII has my deepest respect. If you object to me commenting on your postings I'll keep quiet in future. It's no skin off my nose.

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I don't see what my avatar has to do with anything.

Cloud Cuckoo Land ?

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Reply #10 - May 11^th, 2007 at 11:04am

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freedomhays wrote on May 11^th, 2007 at 10:53am:

Cloud Cuckoo Land ?

That is my location from my profile. If you think it has some deep significance you might like to check out the webmaster's profile sometime. http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=admi...

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Reply #11 - May 11^th, 2007 at 5:31pm

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Feel better, Dan... Roll Eyes

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Reply #12 - May 11^th, 2007 at 5:58pm

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Fascinating photo, I wish I had more photos of my family going back so many years, thanks for sharing it.

freedomhays wrote on May 11^th, 2007 at 8:15am:

And also, it sadeneds me that someone is looking to defalt another person,
You should take a look at your own life... perhaphs get a new one Lips Sealed

Not quite sure what you mean by this....I don't think that Hagar was questioning what you had to say, just sharing some information from the web which added to what you had already provided. If you believe the source to be incorrect maybe this should be what you are challenging rather than the person that quotes it?

I'm amazed by the bravery of the sailors in the merchant marine, crossing the Atlantic countless times with the awareness that they could be attacked without warning, and with comparatively little chance of survival if their ship was hit. The fact that no lives were lost in the example quoted by Hagar seems nothing short of miraculous.

Maybe bravery had little to do with it, possibly it was simply a job of work to individuals who found themselves in extraordinary circumstances, but in our comparatively stable times it seems a tremendously selfless act.

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