OK guys, I'm back to banging on about airfields.

Playing a campaign (BoB) that has the german and british missions (missions for Me109, Me110 and Stuka and for spitfire and hurricane... don't remember what it's called but that doesn't matter).

A large portion of the Me109 missions are flown from Audembert. As mentioned before (with the Condor campaign) the airfields aren't in the same location as the mission files. A pain, but fixable. The problem is that Audembert doesn't show in the campaign. I can select it just fine in free flight, but if I select it as a startpoint for a mission (either as mission or as part of the campaign) the airbase just aint there. I've checked the lat/lon in free flight and it matches the mission text. The airfield shows up in MB. Just not as a visible object in missions or campaigns. Any ideas?
The scenery I'm using BTW is CFS2Europe by Steve McLelland (uhu_berserker).

Oh, other airfields show up. Just not this one.

Piers

Hi James.
Checked the scenery db and there are no duplicate sceneries (to give conflicting data). Checked the airbase.dat file and it has only 1 entry for Audembert. Disabled the scenery as suggested, but it still wasn't there, so that isn't it. I even overwrote the mission file with the info from airbase.dat to make sure the lat/lon, alt and startpoints were identical, but still no show in missions or campaigns, but it does show in freeflight and quick combat.

P

Not sure if I can throw any light on this. I suspect your problems stem from not using the scenery this campaign was written for, whether default or addon. CFS2 default Europe is generic flat scenery with no visible airfields or runways. The locations of the default CFS1 airfields are included in CFS2 by default but if I remember correctly they are not selectable from the Free Flight or QC menu. The entries for these dummy airfields are prefixed by an asterisk in Airbases.dat & on the MB airfield menu. For example *Audembert.

This was Steve's first update in his CFSII Europe series & I recall some of his airfields are more accurately positioned than the CFS1 defaults. (I believe he used the locations from FS2000.) By the sound of it, this is one of them. As it's also mesh scenery it's quite possible the old CFS1 airfield is now below ground level. You could try updating that Airbases.dat entry with the correct location.*

*PS. Alternatively you could add a new entry for Audembert without the asterisk.

Hi Piers. Let's go back to the beginning.

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Despite what you say I think it does matter. It would be a great help if you can remember the names of these campaigns & where you downloaded them. By reading the included instructions we might be able to get to the bottom of this.

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Are you sure there's an actual airfield there? I believe the locations of the default CFS1 airfields are dummy entries in Airbases.dat with no no visible runways. I think it's possible to add runways in the MB so they would only be visible in the missions.

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I assume this is the Condor campaign by Cliff Burgess. I just downloaded it to check it out. The file contains two BGL files named Bordeaux.BGL & Bordeauxlist.BGL. This will give you Bordeaux-Merignac airfield which is a basic CFS2 runway with no buildings or other static scenery. This would be added as static library objects in the missions themselves which is a far better way of doing it. I ignored the author's instructions to install these files direct to CFS2 & used my usual method of adding them via the CFS2 Scenery Library. Bordeaux-Merignac can be selected from the Free Flight menu & a sample Airbases.dat entry is included for this airfield which will add it to the MB database. I haven't tried the missions as this involves other downloads.

piersyf wrote on Apr 20^th, 2007 at 8:56pm:

Right. I found BobCFS2 & downloaded it to check it out. From the description this is a comprehensive set of 120 missions in 5 campaigns. Note that the zipfile includes all required scenery and airplanes. I haven't installed it but my first impressions are that it could have been configured better. It's very complex & I suspect could easily cause problems if something is overlooked.

From a quick investigation this is intended for use with the CFS2 default scenery. The included European Runways update consists of two separate sets of BGL files. These will add 66 of the stock CFS1 runways and airport entries converted for use with CFS2.

The visual runways themselves have been placed in the CFS1 default locations including one file named AudembertRW.BGL. From the instructions these are intended to be installed to the CFS2\Scenedb\runways\scenery folder.
The AFD BGLs will add the airfields to the Free Flight selection menu & these are installed to the CFS2\Scenedb\afdfiles\scenery folder. One of these files is named AudembertAFD.BGL

I haven't tried any of this but it's quite possible it will conflict with 3rd party scenery by other developers including Steve McClelland & Cliff Burgess. If you have Steve's cfsiieurope & 3rd party scenery by other developers installed you could end up with several different locations for default CFS1 airfields like Audembert which would explain your problem. Steve's CFSII Europe scenery is mesh which could cause other conflicts with missions not intended for it.

IMHO the best way to use this BoB addon would be to use a separate install of CFS2 specifically for it & other missions/campaigns using the default European scenery. You could of course remove any conflicting airfields if you wish by removing the appropriate AFD & runway BGL files but this could be complicated & involve modifying the missions.

PS. Mathias Pommerien is a regular member of this forum but he spends his time with CFS3 these days.