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Apr 13^th, 2007 at 6:40am

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1919 - The Amritsar Massacre, India

1941 - The Soviet Union signed a five-year neutrality agreement with Japan. Within four years, Joseph Stalin broke the agreement, declaring war against Japan.

1970 - Apollo 13, nearing destination (the Moon), was crippled when a liquid oxygen tank burst.

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Reply #1 - Apr 13^th, 2007 at 7:43am

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H wrote on Apr 13^th, 2007 at 6:40am:

1919 - The Amritsar Massacre, India

British soldiers tired of hunting tigers in the jungle?

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Reply #2 - Apr 13^th, 2007 at 9:54am

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H wrote on Apr 13^th, 2007 at 6:40am:

1919 - The Amritsar Massacre, India

British soldiers tired of hunting tigers in the jungle?

not that they where tired of it, just when they starting using the machine guns it got boreing Tongue

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Reply #3 - Apr 13^th, 2007 at 10:56am

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H wrote on Apr 13^th, 2007 at 6:40am:

1941 - The Soviet Union signed a five-year neutrality agreement with Japan. Within four years, Joseph Stalin broke the agreement, declaring war against Japan.

The Soviet Union declared war on Japan on August 8, 1945, 4 years and 4 months after the neutrality agreement was signed.

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Reply #4 - Apr 13^th, 2007 at 12:10pm

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Webb wrote on Apr 13^th, 2007 at 10:56am:

H wrote on Apr 13^th, 2007 at 6:40am:

1941 - The Soviet Union signed a five-year neutrality agreement with Japan. Within four years, Joseph Stalin broke the agreement, declaring war against Japan.

The Soviet Union declared war on Japan on August 8, 1945, 4 years and 4 months after the neutrality agreement was signed.

The Soviets played Japan like a cheap fiddle on that one. Prior to the agreement, The Soviets and Japanese were skirmishing along the Manchuko/Soviet border. Both sides were building up their troop levels, and Stalin had Hitler to worry about. He signed that agreement so he could shift his troops. Japan didn't trust Stalin and ended up standing army on the Soviet border who essentially sat out the war out of concern for a Soviet attack that never materialized.

When the Soviets declared war on Japan, the Japanese were already defeated and all the Soviets did was to take over some northern Japanese islands. Japan was tremendously offended by the Soviet skulduggery and essentially called the Soviets "the thief at the fire", which is a term reserved for the lowest form of human life.

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Reply #5 - Apr 13^th, 2007 at 7:26pm

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The Soviets kept the Molotov-Rippentrop Pact to the letter, even as the Nazis were massing on their border.

They realized that if wanted to get their hands on a piece of Japan they had to repudiate the treaty quickly after the US dropped the first atomic bomb.

I'm not disputing their reasoning, just the time frame.

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Reply #6 - Apr 13^th, 2007 at 9:07pm

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Webb wrote on Apr 13^th, 2007 at 7:26pm:

The Soviets kept the Molotov-Rippentrop Pact to the letter, even as the Nazis were massing on their border.
They realized that if wanted to get their hands on a piece of Japan they had to repudiate the treaty quickly after the US dropped the first atomic bomb.
I'm not disputing their reasoning, just the time frame.

The Molotov-Rippentrop Pact, a pact with Germany, had been signed on August 23, 1939, and was shredded upon the Nazi assault upon the Soviets, two months after the Soviet-Japan Neutrality Pact had been signed. They (USSR) did not not keep their pact with Japan on the grounds that Japan had allied with, and assisted, Germany and declared war against the USSR's own allies, denouncing the pact on April 5, 1945, less than four years after the signing; an official declaration of war occurred four months later (as you have all attested).

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Reply #7 - Apr 13^th, 2007 at 10:20pm

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Assuming the above to be true:

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1941 - The Soviet Union signed a five-year neutrality agreement with Japan. Within four years, Joseph Stalin broke the agreement, declaring war against Japan.

The Soviet Union did not declare war on Japan until August 8, 1945, 4 years and 4 months after the treaty was signed.

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Reply #8 - Apr 14^th, 2007 at 5:57am

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Sorry, I shortened the sentence and sort of changed the reading but I still didn't pick it up since the Molotov-Rippentrop Pact, which was something different, got my attention.

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1941 - The Soviet Union signed a five-year neutrality agreement with Japan. Within four years, Joseph Stalin broke the agreement, then declared war against Japan.

The statement was supposed to be about the neutrality pact, not the declaration of war. However, I should have actually lengthened the sentence (kind of have now, anyway) by adding the 4/5/45 and/or 8/8/45 date(s) which may have done us better (I think).

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Reply #9 - Apr 15^th, 2007 at 9:22pm

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I'm good with that.

See what happens when you try to rewrite history? Wink

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Reply #10 - Apr 16^th, 2007 at 9:10am

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Webb wrote on Apr 15^th, 2007 at 9:22pm:

See what happens when you try to rewrite history? Wink

Fun in the present time? Cheesy

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Reply #11 - Apr 16^th, 2007 at 12:34pm

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Webb wrote on Apr 15^th, 2007 at 9:22pm:

I'm good with that.
See what happens when you try to rewrite history? Wink

The writing wasn't the problem but, rather, the reading -- and somebody redirecting attention to another bit of information that wasn't (directly) related to the issue. Tongue

For some reason, even those who won't normally give a fig will expect a date...

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Reply #12 - Apr 16^th, 2007 at 10:07pm

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I hope you will keep up the daily threads as I find them quite interesting.

I wasn't picking on you personally, just a single inaccurate entry.

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