Hey,
Everything has been good with FSX up until now,
However....
I was having an online session today with a close friend, and we wanted to share my aircraft.  We have done it before without any problems but this time, we didn't have the option in the briefing room to "Join Aircraft" of eachother.
Before anyone asks whether I enabled aircraft sharing in the multiplayer options, I did 
I explored a lot of options, but nothing.  We both tried hosting a session, to no avail.
This problem has fully stumped me.  If anybody can help, it would be much appreciated.
Cheers,
Mark

Let's move it to Mulriplayer where it can get a proper discussion, shall we? 

First, you may feel as free as you like to disagree with me and you won't get banned unless you are threatening or do it in such a way as it becomes disrespectful to everyone and interferes with the smooth functioning of these forums.  We are not forum Nazi's like some other sites, and we try to be as relaxed as possible when it comes to people posting.  The only really taboo subjects are:

1: Piracy of Software, which will get the offender an immediate boot.

2: Politics, which will invariably cause arguments and bad feeling all around.

3: Religion, for the same reason as politics.

As for being in the Multiplayer forum; your answer may not come as fast as either of us like, but there are members here who visit only the multi-player forums that know a whole lot more than either of us do about it.  These people are real guru's who not only play multiplayer, but design multiplayer scenarios, organize VA's, etc...  They can give answers that are more detailed, and more accurate than you might get in the FSX forum.

BTW, thanks for doing a search before posting a new topic on this problem.  Most people don't even bother...    You should get with JBaymore who is very much into the Japanese culture and about as nice a guy as you would want to meet. 

Domo Arigato, Xyn_Air Sama...

fighter25 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2007 at 6:34pm:



Yes, we both have share my aircraft checked.

Xyn_air,

Multiplayer is really the place for anything that relates to online flying.  The reason is actually kinda' simple...... those who REALLY know much about multiplayer have a tendency to check in here more frequently.  Yes,, you'll get more POSTS in the FS2004 or FSX sections...... but a lot of those posts will be less than helpful......... coming from folks who THINK they know what is going on since they used multiplayer once   .

It's about quality, not quantity.  

Another factor that is UNFORTUNATE is that not a lot of people actually USE multiplayer, either in fs2004 or FSX.  And multiplayer users in FSX is WAY lower than with fs2004 at this point.  So having multiplayer by itself sort of makes sense...since the topic applys to only a VERY small minority of FS users in general no matter WHAT version they are running.  Sh'kata ga arimasen, ne.

The real "hardcore" multiplayer folks are on VATSIM in droves.  Which uses it's own whole interface software.  And at any given point in time there are hundreds and hundreds of aircraft in the air in real time.  And maybe 50 to 100 controllers too.  It is absolutely AMAZING.  BUT..... you'd better be the equiv. of a real world PPL holder before getting on there... because it is "by the book" all the way.  You don;t jump on there flying a 737 unless you probably are already close to the skills of a RW ATP pilot!  

Here's the portal to that "virtual world":  http://www.vatsim.net/

FSX hasn't caught on for multiplayer because of the Gamespy bit that was instituted.  It severely restricts what can be done and where you can fly.  There are a lot of folks that are very critical of the whole Gamespy deal.  

So a lot of folks using FSX are apparently now using the FSX to FSHost converter program and just flying on FS2004 FSHost flight servers along with the FS2004 folks.  They seem to have a lot more luck with that.  The DOWNSIDE to that is that I beleive that it takes away most of the "new" functions of the FSX program....like being an ATC and shared cockpit and the communications function and such.  I COULD be wrong on that though......not having FSX.  But I beleive that is what I have read.

I fly online a LOT.  As to problems connecting and getting things working right......... I have found that about 99% of them are the result of not having the ports and firewall set up correctly.  See the stickies at the top of this forum for a lot of info on this.  And search all the recent topics of threads for anything that says "firewall" or "ports" or "can't connect".  Unfortunately, getting this stuff right can be a REAL pain in the butt in certain situations.  Becomes a bit "tech weenie" type stuff.

It gets more complicated if you are using a broadband router or DSL modem/router combination.  There are configurations that have to be one on THOSE units too.  And sometimes there are issues with the actual SERVICE PROVIDER having to set things up for online gameing.  If you are on a business NETWORK using a gateway elsewhere on the network than it can get REALLY sticky.  

It is POSSIBLE that your problems are related to a port communications isssue.  Again... I don't use FSX so I can't help more directly.  But eventually someone will come here and help you with definitive info.

I have one flight server that I cannot connect my copy of AIBridge into no matter WHAT I do if anyone else if already on the server...... and I and a lot of "technicians" have had a field day trying to figure out WHAT the problem is.  All of the prots are configured.... and REconfigured and reconfigured...and reconfigured...... to no avail.  (AIBridge injects multiplayer traffic into the fs2004 TACAS trables so that stuff like radar and TACAS will see them when in multiplayer.)

Anyway.... give us a rundown of how you connect to the internet...... and how your dad connects to the internet and that will help with diagnostics.

best,

.......................john

PS:  Thanks for the kind words, Kevin.  

See what I mean? 

JBaymore wrote on Aug 11^th, 2007 at 8:24pm:


I do understand the reasoning behind the move of this thread.  And, I am perfectly happy to live with the decision that Kevin made.  I did have questions and they were answered.  All in all, I am pretty cool about the whole thing.  I am, as you may have noticed, a person who likes to be able to ask direct questions and state my honest opinion.  However, I do make an effort to do this with respect for all involved.  I think this all worked out well enough. 

JBaymore wrote on Aug 11^th, 2007 at 8:24pm:


Thanks for the link.  I may check out their site when I have time.  But, you know I am just so enamored with SimV, it will always be my first love. 

JBaymore wrote on Aug 11^th, 2007 at 8:24pm:


I do understand the reasoning behind the move of this thread.  And, I am perfectly happy to live with the decision that Kevin made.  I did have questions and they were answered.  All in all, I am pretty cool about the whole thing.  I am, as you may have noticed, a person who likes to be able to ask direct questions and state my honest opinion.  However, I do make an effort to do this with respect for all involved.  I think this all worked out well enough. 

JBaymore wrote on Aug 11^th, 2007 at 8:24pm:


Thanks for the link.  I may check out their site when I have time.  But, you know I am just so enamored with SimV, it will always be my first love. 

I think I understand why MS went with GamSpy.  In the same way they added a lot of non-sim bells and whistles to FS, I think MS is trying to market FS to people who are more general gamers.  Gamespy, though not allowing, perhaps, for some of the connection control, etc., long-time FS users are used to, it theoretically allows gamers who don't want to learn how to control their internet connections use their connections for multiplay.

AS FOR THE ORIGINAL QUESTION, my dad and I figured it out.  The person who wants to JOIN and SHARE another players aircraft must have the "Allow others to share my aircraft" option turned OFF.  If you click this, the game assumes you want your very own aircraft to share, not that you want to be able to share someone else's aircraft (not a very clear option if you ask me).  The person who is doing the SHARING must have the option checked, of course.

Hope that helps whoever was wondering.  It worked for my dad and I.  If I rambled unclearly, let me know, and I will try to re-explain.

As always, all the best,
~Darrin

Xyn_Air wrote on Aug 11^th, 2007 at 9:37pm:


Xyn_air,

You have now officially gone from being a "help-eE" to a "help-eR"  Congratulations on posting your first major "tip" for the folks using FSX in multiplayer!   

best,

.......................john