Simviation Forum - There IS no shame in going around..

Mar 12^th, 2007 at 9:13pm

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One of our club planes.. I had just landed in the Cardinal, coming back from Ann Arbor and saw it being towed in Cry

The pilot came in hot, bounced, and tried to recover.. Nobody hurt, thank goodness..

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Reply #1 - Mar 12^th, 2007 at 9:27pm

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Ouch, scary. Tongue

On a side note, that's the first 172 I've ever seen painted like a FS default 172. Wink

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Reply #2 - Mar 12^th, 2007 at 10:06pm

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Um, can you say ouch. Yeah def. no shame in going around when in a situation like that. I'm not a real life pilot myself but i can tell you that it's not worth that lol.

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Reply #3 - Mar 12^th, 2007 at 11:00pm

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Ouch

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Reply #4 - Mar 12^th, 2007 at 11:17pm

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Wow, I thought I'd seen some pranged Skyhawks, but that one deserves an award:
The IPIGANT, or I Promise I'll Go Around Next Time award... Grin

That must've been a spine-crushing arrival; they're hard to break... a few months back a nervous student took the tie-down ring off the tail of the school's SP ... but no wrinkling; no other damage at all. Grin

Were they really trying to land a new 172 with only one notch of flaps? Not a good idea; better off with no flaps to practice slipping... Roll Eyes

I've been going around... and around... for 12 years now, and haven't bent an airplane yet.
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Reply #5 - Mar 13^th, 2007 at 1:22am

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Mobius wrote on Mar 12^th, 2007 at 9:27pm:

Ouch, scary. Tongue

On a side note, that's the first 172 I've ever seen painted like a FS default 172. Wink

LMAO! Sadly, that's the first thing that came to mind for me..."Is that the FS cessna?"

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Reply #6 - Mar 13^th, 2007 at 5:13am

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Ouch!!

Although, you got to give the guy credit, that little yellow truck can't be the easiest thing to land on - looks like he nailed it though.

Still a valuable reminder, thanks for posting it Brett

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Reply #7 - Mar 13^th, 2007 at 7:15am

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This was a reminder/lesson-teacher for sure. There's been a de-briefing and all the speculation you'd imagine... but the evidence is pretty telling. To bounce high enough for THAT kind of "second landing", he had to be coming in pretty hot and just got completely flustered when he found himeself 20 feet off the runway AFTER his first contact. Not a student either; he was coming back from a trip with his wife on board. It was a beautiful day for flying with a mild (7-10knot) crosswind. The really mangled main-gear was downwind, so it's obvious he just quit flying, grit his teeth and hoped for the best.. except for maybe trying to flare, 'cause the nose-gear and firewall are pretty much intact.

Full power, hold it in ground-effect until 70kias and GO AROUND !

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Reply #8 - Mar 13^th, 2007 at 7:22am

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Ouch. Nasty. I've seen some dodgy landings in my time but nothing quite as bad as that. Looks like they were lucky to get away with it.

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Reply #9 - Mar 13^th, 2007 at 9:51am

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That'll buff right out.

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Reply #10 - Mar 13^th, 2007 at 11:07am

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Looks like the low drag gear mod failed on landing. Still at least the other side stayed up.

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Reply #11 - Mar 13^th, 2007 at 3:02pm

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that is the later model skyhawk factory paint - MSFS duplicated it for their flight sim not the other way around. I have seen many with those clors and flown a few bearing those same colors.

i think its a near looking paint job as simple as it is.

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Reply #12 - Mar 13^th, 2007 at 5:18pm

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beaky wrote on Mar 12^th, 2007 at 11:17pm:

Were they really trying to land a new 172 with only one notch of flaps? Not a good idea; better off with no flaps to practice slipping... Roll Eyes

Why not use 10 degrees of flaps? I do it all the time when the winds are high.

Lucky it didn't catch fire, I've seen another 172 do the same thing, except when the nose gear came off it ripped the fuel line from the engine as well. Only thing left after the fire was the firewall forward, and the outer five feet of the wings.

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Reply #13 - Mar 13^th, 2007 at 7:59pm

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I feel bad for the plane.

Painted like a MS default AND BLEEDING! Tongue

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Reply #14 - Mar 13^th, 2007 at 8:25pm

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DaveSims wrote on Mar 13^th, 2007 at 5:18pm:

beaky wrote on Mar 12^th, 2007 at 11:17pm:

Were they really trying to land a new 172 with only one notch of flaps? Not a good idea; better off with no flaps to practice slipping... Roll Eyes

Why not use 10 degrees of flaps? I do it all the time when the winds are high.

Lucky it didn't catch fire, I've seen another 172 do the same thing, except when the nose gear came off it ripped the fuel line from the engine as well. Only thing left after the fire was the firewall forward, and the outer five feet of the wings.

I'll generally go for 20 or nothing under those conditions, but of course it depends... I guess my thinking is that 10 degrees might produce a sense of false security. I've made most of my landings on runways under 3000' long; maybe that's where I get it from.

In general, I think of that first notch as for takeoffs only...but that's me.

Looks like the structure forward of the firewall didn't get damaged too badly... he seems to have gotten the nose up, but the descent rate onto the mains, combined with the "stubbing" as it came down sideways... ouch!

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