Hello everyone Im Gabriel Coach. me Eric and Darian are starting an Aircraft and Scenery project and we need some help. What we need is Profesional Aircraft, Panel, Virtual cockpit, and Scenery
Designers. Our Aircraft will be Boeins 733 with and without winglets, 757-200 300, 777-200 300, 767-200 300 400. And for scenery we will have KSTL,KSMF,KRNO. This will be Payware Aircraft so you will get paid 30% of every product sold every 4 months. I am very serious about this so people no fooling with me or messing up my products. Here is our site. www.southwestpub.org and you can email me at contact@southwestpub.org
. Thankyou
                                                     

Threadkiller wrote on Mar 11^th, 2007 at 12:30pm:


+1

I was going to ask, how many designers were going to be apart of the team. It's seems to be true that the other members of the team would earn the 20-30% while true designers would ask for 40-50%. If it wasn't for the designers, where would your profit go, designers is where it's all at. I know I would be angry if in the long run I found out I was making less then the team leader, which in must cases that's what people try to do...

I am willing to pay as much as I can.

Oh yes and Ill send the money through checks so Ill need adresses.

Ok only one spot www.southwestpub.org

Gabriel Coach wrote on Mar 8^th, 2007 at 8:56pm:



One thing I have found designers forget and leave out are little things that really make or break a great model. Detailed lights, touchdown, touchdown and takeoff air vortex, exhaust, dynamic wake turbulence for weather conditions and wing tip vortices along with contrails. All these items may appear simplistic to make and they can be if they are not designed with good details and thrown together with little thought in how the finished product looks. Looking 1/2 way decent, to me, is not enough. Also, many FX, if the aircraft even has them, also lack proper xml or c gauge control so they deploy correctly and under the right conditions.

Along with the model, textures and flight dynamics, those items are what 'sells' the aircraft as being realistic. Most people who use MSFS are not real pilots and enjoy aircraft for the visual eye candy they produce for screenshots as well as looking at it in action and thinking it looks very real. FX and details like that are what puts an offering into the catagory of a superior and desired product.

If you want to see what people find great, check the P2P networks and see what they are stealing.    PMDG is one that is on the top of the list along with others that pay close attention to good details but I still find those offerings come up short in the final analysis  because none have what I consider great FX to top off the show.

I designed the thrust/exhaust/turbulence FX with dynamic weather/ground condition xml controls under contract with Things To Come for their JetPakNG project which required some tricky development because the sim does not understand thrust vectoring. In short, they came to me because at that point no one could figure out how to make thrust go 'down' and give the correct illusion of a rocket belt in action.

JetPakNG was featured at the Smithsonian Institute with their "Yesterday's Tomorrows" exhibit which ran for almost a year. Does that count as professional?

I never could figure out why ThingstoCome never changed their promo shots for the product after I designed and corrected the thrust/exhaust..

Originally it looked like this: http://www.things-to-come.com/index_jp.htm

After my designs it looked like this: http://www.wspilots.com/index.php?page=48 (scroll down) Which produced FX that were dynamic to the throttle, ground, surface conditions and weather

I have played this game before. I had one payware company approach me for fire in the cockpit and emergency cockpit FX who were very ‘serious’ told me their developer said it could not be done and they were willing to pay if it could. They challenged me, in a sense, and I spent the time doing a test setup and I sent them a video of exactly what they wanted. I did it, contrary to their developer’s statement… and you know what they said to me? “We will trade you any planes you want for the FX.”

My FX are incorporated into payware aircraft and scenery and I usually sell them outright with no credit. They own them and all the rights to them. In the case of TTC I took the credit in lieu of some payment because of where the project was going and their outstanding professional approach.


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EDIT: I fully endorse and support the freeware community and the very much respect what those people sacrifice to the hobby. I also contribute although I don’t put into my quickie freebies what I would if I was being paid for it. Sometimes I spend more time writing up the nomenclature than I do making the add-on.

I take on a payware project from time to time and I don't do it for peanuts. I'm easy but I'm not cheap. I have a 60 foot Yacht that needs fueling for an Alaska trip and since I have worked for Microsoft under contract I don't think I would be fooling around or screwing up your project. That unprofessional comment and suggestion was insulting to the talented and noteworthy designers on this website.

If you are truely serious about launching a business to provide a top quality product which should have the right FX and art direction in that area, you come see me. If I think you are serious, have the resources to accomplish that goal sucessfully and are committed to the quality you say you are, I will then think about providing said services under the terms of a fair and reasonable contract.

As for the aircraft, panel and other designs, I would suggest you may wish to consider words carefully because you may loose any opportunity to have outstanding, talented individuals from this board even consider entering into a contract for your project.


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