Boeing27 wrote on Feb 24^th, 2007 at 11:13am:



It is all as inbred as a Hill Billy wedding, so don't expect too much of a difference

Matt


Who owns Who?

BMW owns:
-BMW
-Mini
-Rolls Royce

Daimler/Chrysler owns:
-AMC 
-Chrysler
-Dodge
-Eagle 
-Hyundai
-Jeep
-Maybach
-Mercedes-Benz
-Plymouth 
-Smart

Fiat owns:
-Alfa Romeo
-Ferrari
-Fiat
-Lancia
-Maserati

Ford owns:
-Aston Martin
-Ford
-Jaguar
-Land Rover 
-Lincoln
-Mazda (Ford owns 33% of Mazda)
-Mercury
-Volvo cars

Fuji Heavy Industries owns:
-Subaru

General Motors owns:
-Buick
-Cadillac
-Chevrolet
-Daewoo (GM owns 44%)
-Fiat (GM has decided to divorce itself from Fiat as of Feb '05, but will retain 10% ownership.)
-GMC
-Holden
-Hummer
-Oldsmobile 
-Opel
-Pontiac
-Saab
-Saturn
-Suzuki (2.5%, from 20%)
-Vauxhall

Honda owns:
-Acura
-Honda

Hyundai owns:
-Hyundai
-Kia

Isuzu owns:
-Isuzu
(Mitsubishi Corp., Itochu Corp. and Mizuho Corporate Bank owns part of Isuzu.)

Mitsubishi Corp. owns:
-Isuzu (13.6%)
-Mitsubishi Motors Corp (13%)

Nissan owns:
-Infiniti
-Nissan
-Renault (Nissan owns 15%)

PSA Peugeot Citroen owns:
-Citroen
-Peugeot

Porsche owns:
-Porsche
-VW (20%)

Renault owns:
-Nissan (Renault owns 44%)

Toyota owns:
-Daihatsu (~51%)
-Fuji Heavy Industries -- Subaru (Toyota owns ~20%. Toyota bought this from GM in late 2005. )
-Isuzu (5.9%, announced 7 Nov. 2006)
-Lexus
-Scion
-Toyota

Volkswagen owns:
-Audi
-Bentley
-Bugatti
-Lamborghini
-SEAT
-Skoda
-Volkswagen

This is great.  I really hope that GM does in fact purchase Chrylser (and hopefully with it the Dodge name will go as well).  The reason is, my best friend is a HUGE Mopar guy...and being a Chevy guy we always argue over who is better.  If GM owns Dodge, then I win.   

Any purchase of Chrysler Corp. would have to meet the approval of the stockholders and the SEC, which may be too high a hurdle to overcome. They should have let them sink 25 years ago.

expat wrote on Feb 24^th, 2007 at 8:12pm:


Correct.  DaimlerChrysler is looking to sell off the Chrysler group and GM may me interested.  SHould be interesting if the deal goes throught.

You are also correct with Hyundai.  THey are there own company.  Chrysler has actually since sold its share in the company.

FTL992 wrote on Mar 4^th, 2007 at 1:03am:


There's actually a rumor that if Daimler sells the Chrysler group that they will hold on to Jeep.

I really don't think there is anything to worry about as far as vehicle quality guys.  If this even happens...its likely that nothing will change at all, except the profits will be going to a different parent company.

bok269 wrote on Mar 5^th, 2007 at 11:38pm:

Right, buy a company so you can run it in to the ground.  Makes sense...

If GM buys Chrysler than Ram trucks WILL BE GM trucks.

Chris_F wrote on Mar 6^th, 2007 at 3:29pm:


As far as buying a company to run it into the ground, its called eliminating competition.  Right now, their are some market segments in which the two companies compete and some in which they dont.  GM will make sure that if they buy the company theyll make sure they arent cannbalizing eachother.

When I say GM trucks, Im talking about the GM manufactured GMT900 Chevy Silverado and GMC Sierra.  The Rams until they are redesigned would be manufactured by Chrysler plants using the same amount of Chrysler Parts, making them Chrysler trucks.  Its like when two airlines merge, they cut down on flights on certain routes because their may not be a need for the flights from both preexisting carriers. 

Some models, like the DOdge Caliber, would probably be kept because that is a market where GM really doesnt have an entry.

bok269 wrote on Mar 6^th, 2007 at 11:44pm:
Why buy it then?  If their product is worse than yours then just compete with them head to head and drive them out of the segment.  If their prodcut is superior to yours then why buy them and substitute your own product instead of keeping their product and dropping yours?

Sure, when one company buys another they do wittle away their redundant products.  That just makes sense.  The way I read your post though it sounded like GM's motivation for buying Chrysler was simply to torpedo them.  That would be like buying a Fabroge egg just to smash it.  Sure there's one less egg around to worry about but you're also out a LOT of cash in the process.

Well if GM will use Dodge Trucks then GMC is going to have to go! Chevy Trucks and GMC are the same thing only in a different dealership. I guess GM wants to completely outsell Ford.