Simviation Forum - F1 at night

Feb 15^th, 2007 at 7:15pm

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http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=38489
Its about time, although I would prefer this being done on a street course. Gives a much better scene really.

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Reply #1 - Feb 15^th, 2007 at 8:49pm

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Very cool. That'll make for some spectacular visuals. I'd bet those cars burp all sorts of flames that go unseen during the day. And brake disk glow is going to be spectacular.

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Reply #2 - Feb 15^th, 2007 at 11:16pm

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what would an f1 car with lights look like? Roll Eyes

I am assuming that floodlighting (the circut has lights instead of the cars) wouldn't be used in the extremly long tracks that f1 has (compared to nascar). Also wouldn't the driver have visual problems with the changes in floodlighting?

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Reply #3 - Feb 16^th, 2007 at 2:45am

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I gotta tell ya, I've done open wheel at night in much slower cars and my eyeballs didn't want to stay focused on the pavement. At that low of a height it takes some getting used to. Everthing seems to go by so much faster. My hat's off to the IRL, LeMans and other drivers who manage to keep on the pavement.
F-1 at night would just about be the pinnacle of anything else in motorsports.

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Reply #4 - Feb 16^th, 2007 at 9:24am

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Mushroom_Farmer wrote on Feb 16^th, 2007 at 2:45am:

I gotta tell ya, I've done open wheel at night in much slower cars and my eyeballs didn't want to stay focused on the pavement. At that low of a height it takes some getting used to. Everthing seems to go by so much faster. My hat's off to the IRL, LeMans and other drivers who manage to keep on the pavement.
F-1 at night would just about be the pinnacle of anything else in motorsports.

Yeah, I'd assume the lighting would have to be very even across the entire track. Drivers have a hard enough time with the tunnel at Monaco.

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Reply #5 - Feb 16^th, 2007 at 12:36pm

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Chris_F wrote on Feb 16^th, 2007 at 9:24am:

Mushroom_Farmer wrote on Feb 16^th, 2007 at 2:45am:

I gotta tell ya, I've done open wheel at night in much slower cars and my eyeballs didn't want to stay focused on the pavement. At that low of a height it takes some getting used to. Everthing seems to go by so much faster. My hat's off to the IRL, LeMans and other drivers who manage to keep on the pavement.
F-1 at night would just about be the pinnacle of anything else in motorsports.

Yeah, I'd assume the lighting would have to be very even across the entire track. Drivers have a hard enough time with the tunnel at Monaco.

The only way I can think of it would be if the lights were to be mounted on the cars (to keep the level of lighting approx. the same for the drivers, but the aero guys would go crazy Roll Eyes

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Reply #6 - Feb 16^th, 2007 at 3:30pm

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Chris_F wrote on Feb 16^th, 2007 at 9:24am:

Mushroom_Farmer wrote on Feb 16^th, 2007 at 2:45am:

I gotta tell ya, I've done open wheel at night in much slower cars and my eyeballs didn't want to stay focused on the pavement. At that low of a height it takes some getting used to. Everthing seems to go by so much faster. My hat's off to the IRL, LeMans and other drivers who manage to keep on the pavement.
F-1 at night would just about be the pinnacle of anything else in motorsports.

Yeah, I'd assume the lighting would have to be very even across the entire track. Drivers have a hard enough time with the tunnel at Monaco.

thats because with the monaco tunnel they go from a bright sun to a rather dark tunnel with no time for their eyes to adjust.
At least at night the whole time your eyes will have that chance.
As tillke says its just a matter of havign the space for the lighting.
If champ car can manage it round a car park in denver i'm sure the top level of motor racing can.

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Reply #7 - Feb 18^th, 2007 at 6:02am

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F1 at night would be awsome! I think it would also be a nice idea if they chucked headlights on them too. Or better yet, a 24 hour race in F1 cars!

However, I still think Le Mans at night would be nicer than F1 cars as F1 seems like racing giant Go Karts to me.

Something seems sexy about an Audi R10 zooming at 400km/h, ESPECIALLY as you CANNOT hear them coming. Cheesy

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Reply #8 - Feb 19^th, 2007 at 4:27pm

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Or better yet, a 24 hour race in F1 cars!

No chance I'm afraid, F1 engines are designed to last a MAXIMUM of 2 hours. Most manufacturers on the grid had some sort of engine failure last year... and that was within 1-2 hours.. also there's the issue of car setup, seat fittings (they'd have to change drivers on numerous occasions) driver height and weight, ballast etc.. I could go on.

Nice idea but a non starter.
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Reply #9 - Feb 19^th, 2007 at 11:10pm

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Or better yet, a 24 hour race in F1 cars!

No chance I'm afraid, F1 engines are designed to last a MAXIMUM of 2 hours. Most manufacturers on the grid had some sort of engine failure last year... and that was within 1-2 hours.. also there's the issue of car setup, seat fittings (they'd have to change drivers on numerous occasions) driver height and weight, ballast etc.. I could go on.

Nice idea but a non starter.
Rob.

Don't they still have a rule that the engine has to last 2 or 3 races now, or was that repealed? I didn't watch F-1 at all last year since we have no decent coverage.

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Reply #10 - Feb 20^th, 2007 at 10:38am

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An F1 endurance race would also be very out of character for the sport. F1 has alwasy been a sprint race type format (if you consider 2 hours to be a sprint

). A 12 or 24 hour race wouldn't be F1-like. That's what sports car racing is all about.

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Reply #11 - Feb 20^th, 2007 at 2:19pm

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Sorry Mushroom farmer, let me correct myself... Tongue

What I meant by that comment was they're made to last 2 hours at maximum operating speeds and temperatures... not as a whole, and yes, they still have to last 2 races.

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Reply #12 - Feb 21^st, 2007 at 12:03am

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Or better yet, a 24 hour race in F1 cars!

No chance I'm afraid, F1 engines are designed to last a MAXIMUM of 2 hours. Most manufacturers on the grid had some sort of engine failure last year... and that was within 1-2 hours.. also there's the issue of car setup, seat fittings (they'd have to change drivers on numerous occasions) driver height and weight, ballast etc.. I could go on.

Nice idea but a non starter.
Rob.

That's the point. Make it harder lol.

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Reply #13 - Feb 22^nd, 2007 at 7:47pm

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Yeah, night racing is cool. Champ Car made the first big leap for road circuits back when they ran Cleveland at night. (which by the way was an awsome race). The lights make the cars really shine!

F-1 would be even cooler at night, and a monaco night race would give me a hard on.

Personally I think if theres gonna be a night race it should be in Las Vegas, on the strip!

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Reply #14 - Feb 24^th, 2007 at 6:28pm

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The Ruptured Duck wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2007 at 7:47pm:

F-1 would be even cooler at night, and a monaco night race would give me a hard on.

Just slightly TOO much information there.... Shocked

Rob.

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