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Feb 7th, 2007 at 2:22pm

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The time has come, ive decided to do a few tours for those of us who are "Commerical addictive".
Flying Short - Medium Routes, 737 - 767, we will cover large distances!

This is only in the VERY early stage, but look out for intial information on this tour on the 21st Feb.

The "HIGH FLYERS CLUB" will be a "Beta" tour, so ideas will be tried, and if the first few tours are successful, the HIGH FLYERS CLUB will begin, with flights operating weekly.

Many thanks for looking, and PLEASE advance on the comments, remember, without your feedback - i'm only planning MY tours!.

James - Jimbo's Tours

PS: GA flying, will ALWAYS be my MAIN Priority... This is just an idea!!
 

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Reply #1 - Feb 8th, 2007 at 9:52am
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Considering there are plenty people here who fly big stuff, your idea might catch on. You won't see me up there though. Well maybe just to slow things down with my Piper Cub. Flying circuits around the airfield. Really slow......

Crash Wink

PS only joking ofcourse. Sounds like a great plan, Jimbo.

 
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Reply #2 - Feb 8th, 2007 at 6:04pm

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Its staying up for one more day, if no more interest is substained, its coming off  Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #3 - Feb 8th, 2007 at 6:13pm

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i might do it but i still think that prop tours are the best. Smiley
 

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Reply #4 - Feb 9th, 2007 at 3:48am

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It will only work for me Jmbo, if I can stuff a Rolls-Royce jet engine into the rear end of my Cessna 172... Roll Eyes...!

LOL... Grin...!

Paul....Piston Props rule...(Low and slow!)... Cool...!
 

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Reply #5 - Feb 9th, 2007 at 5:51am

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Do'nt loose heart Jimbo, start it & people will come to have a look, if not hrs long trips I will have a go.

From A to B, economical Jet flt.planning is made so that TOC is at a FL that coincides with TOD (or with shortest cruise possible), reaching a height in the first waypoint of STARS & land at B.

p.e. If A to B is 200nm, climb to a FL that covers 100nm, close the throttles & descent to reach the first STAR alt, say 5000', covering 75nm (height to loose 25th.ft x3=75), leaving 25nm for approach & land at B.

Pressurised jets descend at 3-4000fpm.

These calculations were taken out of performance graphs in the flt.manual before each flight by the crew, but nowadays Ops hands you a hard copy of the computerised flt.plan, which in turn you bring up in the FMS by keying the icao codes of A & B !.

Let's have a go.
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Reply #6 - Feb 9th, 2007 at 11:16am

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You make it at a north american friendly time and I will be there, Meljet in hand.... Smiley
 

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Reply #7 - Feb 9th, 2007 at 1:11pm

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Clipper wrote on Feb 9th, 2007 at 11:16am:
You make it at a North American friendly time and I will be there, Meljet in hand.... Smiley


Hi Clip...Wink...!

Mel Jet.

Is she any relation to Busty Brenda?, (her in the woods..Wink..)... Kiss....!

Paul... Grin...!
 

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Reply #8 - Feb 9th, 2007 at 2:32pm

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Fozzer wrote on Feb 9th, 2007 at 3:48am:
It will only work for me Jmbo, if I can stuff a Rolls-Royce jet engine into the rear end of my Cessna 172... Roll Eyes...!

LOL... Grin...!

Paul....Piston Props rule...(Low and slow!)... Cool...!


Ill be back to you shortly from the workshop Wink

Ill come if I'm available Smiley

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Im back.....here you go uncle fozzer!
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Mictheslik wrote on Feb 9th, 2007 at 2:32pm:
Fozzer wrote on Feb 9th, 2007 at 3:48am:
It will only work for me Jmbo, if I can stuff a Rolls-Royce jet engine into the rear end of my Cessna 172... Roll Eyes...!

LOL... Grin...!

Paul....Piston Props rule...(Low and slow!)... Cool...!


Ill be back to you shortly from the workshop Wink

Ill come if I'm available Smiley

.mic


EDIT....

Im back.....here you go uncle fozzer!
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That's ma' Boy... Wink...!

Now you're talkin'.... Grin...!

Well done... Wink...!

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(I just need Busty Brenda as co-pilot now)... Smiley...!

 

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If the timeframe allows....... I'll be there in my BAe 146-200.

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Reply #11 - Feb 10th, 2007 at 7:35pm

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Fozz, you must have mis-read....MelJet in hand.. couldn't be any relations....not to those two anyway.. Wink
 

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Reply #12 - Feb 10th, 2007 at 7:57pm

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luke wrote on Feb 9th, 2007 at 5:51am:
Do'nt loose heart Jimbo, start it & people will come to have a look, if not hrs long trips I will have a go.

From A to B, economical Jet flt.planning is made so that TOC is at a FL that coincides with TOD (or with shortest cruise possible), reaching a height in the first waypoint of STARS & land at B.

p.e. If A to B is 200nm, climb to a FL that covers 100nm, close the throttles & descent to reach the first STAR alt, say 5000', covering 75nm (height to loose 25th.ft x3=75), leaving 25nm for approach & land at B.

Pressurised jets descend at 3-4000fpm.

These calculations were taken out of performance graphs in the flt.manual before each flight by the crew, but nowadays Ops hands you a hard copy of the computerised flt.plan, which in turn you bring up in the FMS by keying the icao codes of A & B !.

Let's have a go.


Hi Luke.

Many thanks for your interest.

What you suggested may sound a wee bit advanced for some users, i'm an FMS geek, and i keep on top of it, but what i had in mind is VERY similar to what i have now, List the Waypoints (GPS DIRECT), the MAP, Suggest a cruising altitude, and cruising Speed.

My new tours are all about LEARNING, and this method of vague planning will allow the users (you lot) to plan your OWN flights with my proprietry imformation.

It may not sound "Good" at the moment, but believe me, this level of tuition will get everyone flying at their own pace and management skills.

James
 

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Reply #13 - Feb 11th, 2007 at 6:50am

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Management skills.... Roll Eyes....?

I take one look at the instrument panel, etc, on a large, Commercial, Passenger jet; switch the 'Puter off, and go shopping instead... Wink...!

(I cannot imagine landing one of "those things" in a local Farmers private grass air strip!)... Shocked...!

Whether I could manage a small Cessna Citation jet, or not, for the Tour, I don't know....
...perhaps I could try...MMmmmm..... Roll Eyes...?

It all comes down to the recommended speed for the Hop, as to which aircraft would be suitable?... Shocked...!!

I don't think my Trusty Beech Baron will keep up with a 747 Jumbo...Bugger!... Cry...!
LOL...!

Paul... Cool...!

(I hate bleedin' Commercial Jets! They are too fast, too high, and they don't enjoy the amazing scenery down below)....LOL... Grin...!

 

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Fozzer wrote on Feb 11th, 2007 at 6:50am:
Management skills.... Roll Eyes....?

I take one look at the instrument panel, etc, on a large, Commercial, Passenger jet; switch the 'Puter off, and go shopping instead... Wink...!

(I cannot imagine landing one of "those things" in a local Farmers private grass air strip!)... Shocked...!

Whether I could manage a small Cessna Citation jet, or not, for the Tour, I don't know....
...perhaps I could try...MMmmmm..... Roll Eyes...?

It all comes down to the recommended speed for the Hop, as to which aircraft would be suitable?... Shocked...!!

I don't think my Trusty Beech Baron will keep up with a 747 Jumbo...Bugger!... Cry...!
LOL...!

Paul... Cool...!

(I hate bleedin' Commercial Jets! They are too fast, too high, and they don't enjoy the amazing scenery down below)....LOL... Grin...!



From your OWN opinion to another, there are JUST as many Commercial Simulation fans as there are general aviation. People like different things Paul, which i what im trying to determine - create tours for the best of both worlds.

Management Skills - there are ALOT OF SKILLS involved in planning, maintaining, and controlling a commercial jet. The MANAGEMENT skills YOU learn from these commercial tours can be easily put into any other simulation flights, as well as practical in general life.

Remember, commercialised jets are the future, and arn't going anywhere.
 

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why waste your breath then Paul, stay clear & let the man do his thing
 

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Reply #16 - Feb 11th, 2007 at 11:30am
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Jimbo wrote on Feb 11th, 2007 at 8:54am:
Remember, commercialised jets are the future, and arn't going anywhere.


They just fill the parking spaces at the airport then?

Crash Wink
 
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DO IT! DO IT! Perhaps, since there are only 3 big jets that come with the game, and they are all Boeings, we should have people post some download links for everyone to DL and check out.  On a side note, what is the best 727 to DL? I really want to fly one, but I want the best possible, with autopilot settings and almost every feature in there; virtual cockpit preferred, but it's okay if it doesn't have it.
 

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luke wrote on Feb 11th, 2007 at 9:03am:
why waste your breath then Paul, stay clear & let the man do his thing


....poor old Luke and Jimbo.....Wink...

They gets so serious, they cant see that old Fozzer is pulling their legs...Wink...!

...it's what I do to create a bit of fun in the Thread... Roll Eyes...!

Paul...still waiting patiently for Luke to burst out in uncontrollable laughter...will it ever happen.. Huh....?

LOL... Grin...!
 

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Fozzer wrote on Feb 11th, 2007 at 12:12pm:
luke wrote on Feb 11th, 2007 at 9:03am:
why waste your breath then Paul, stay clear & let the man do his thing


....poor old Luke and Jimbo.....Wink...

They gets so serious, they cant see that old Fozzer is pulling their legs...Wink...!

...it's what I do to create a bit of fun in the Thread... Roll Eyes...!

Paul...still waiting patiently for Luke to burst out in uncontrollable laughter...will it ever happen.. Huh....?

LOL... Grin...!


Tis OK Foz, I understood the Fun, i was just trying to hear myself out!  Grin Wink
 

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[quote author=Fozzer link=1170876162/15#18 date=1171213941Paul...still waiting patiently for Luke to burst out in uncontrollable laughter...will it ever happen.. Huh
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Use the farce, Luke.   Cool
 

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its virtual, there is no luke
 

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Reply #22 - Feb 11th, 2007 at 12:32pm

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JBaymore wrote on Feb 11th, 2007 at 12:23pm:
[quote author=Fozzer link=1170876162/15#18 date=1171213941Paul...still waiting patiently for Luke to burst out in uncontrollable laughter...will it ever happen.. Huh


Use the farce, Luke.   Cool
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That's the sort of reply that causes me to burst out into uncontrollable laughter... Grin... Grin... Grin...!

Well done, John.. Grin...!

Paul...(still laughing).... Cool...!
 

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why laughing, he did'nt say fart

BTW, Jimbo, owe you an apology for my comment on Alaska. Did a couple of trips somebody had as adventure, & by jove was fantastic scenery.
 

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luke wrote on Feb 11th, 2007 at 12:49pm:
Why laughing, he didn't say fart?


LOL... Grin...!

I spend most of my days either laughing, or making other folks laugh...

It's what has kept me going for the past 73 years...

...and will continue for the next 150 years....hopefully... Wink...!

Paul...A bundle of fun... Grin...!
 

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luke wrote on Feb 11th, 2007 at 12:49pm:
why laughing, he did'nt say fart

BTW, Jimbo, owe you an apology for my comment on Alaska. Did a couple of trips somebody had as adventure, & by jove was fantastic scenery.


NO problem Luke, thats what i'm hear for.. Your Opinions, PLEASE Opion-ate my tours, without, like i keep saying, I'm only flying my OWN TOUR....
 

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fozzer a tucano could probably keep up with the jets: http://www.simshed.com/Tucano.html

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wealthysoup wrote on Feb 12th, 2007 at 1:23pm:
fozzer a tucano could probably keep up with the jets: http://www.simshed.com/Tucano.html

Wink


Hello, Soup...!

Thanks for the link. Just popped it into my Hangar and will give it a try-out.
...at least is has an old fashioned prop in front instead of a jet-hole...LOL... Grin..!

Cheers...!

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No beef with big jets per se, but a tour in the FLs just doesn't seem very... I dunno... friendly. Chances are good you'll never catch sight of each other for more than a few minutes on such a tour... I mean, if piloting heavy jets in FS is supposed to be "just like the pros do it", you can't be forming up and sporting around... minimum legal spacings... IFR plans and clearances... yadda yadda.

Or maybe it will be more casual? Might be more fun, but if  these flights are anything as chaotic as the usual bug-smasher get-togethers, just lining up to take off will be verrry interesting indeed. Cheesy

I think the best way to share the airline-pilot experience in MSFS would be to have the ability to put multiple players in the same plane, as a crew... that would be pretty cool.

But I might come along on one of these tours, if I can bring a fighter. Grin

Or I could be cajoled into joining with the VC-10; all you big-iron drivers should try Maltby's terrific model if you haven't already.
That would be fun: a flight of all VC-10s, with a short-field-landing comp at the end. Grin
 

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I've no idea what sort of speeds and heights Commercial Passenger Jets fly at, but I would imagine that even my new Tucano Turbine Prop RAF Trainer* would have a hard time keeping up, constantly flat out at 300 knots... Shocked...?

What sort of heights and speeds would be involved in the flights...?

Paul.... Cool...!

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Reply #30 - Feb 13th, 2007 at 1:24pm

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a boeing 737s crusie speed is approximately 439 knots (http://www.airliners.net/info/stats.main?id=93) whilst the tucano can only do 315mph (http://www.raf.mod.uk/raflintononouse/aboutus/tucano.cfm) Sad

some config tweaks fozzer? Wink

p.s. google is your friend Wink

although if its a slower cruising speed we are fine Wink
 

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Reply #31 - Feb 13th, 2007 at 3:07pm

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wealthysoup wrote on Feb 13th, 2007 at 1:24pm:
a boeing 737s crusie speed is approximately 439 knots (http://www.airliners.net/info/stats.main?id=93) whilst the tucano can only do 315mph (http://www.raf.mod.uk/raflintononouse/aboutus/tucano.cfm) Sad

some config tweaks fozzer? Wink

p.s. google is your friend Wink

although if its a slower cruising speed we are fine Wink


Hi Soup... Wink...!

My new baby here...>>>

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1171396947/0#0

She is a real dream, need to get used to the turbine now... Roll Eyes...LOL...!

An excellent model... Smiley...!

Paul...Racing around the skies... Grin...!
 

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