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Feb 4th, 2007 at 11:31pm

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Nice panel layout there.   Cool


Regarding gear/flap switches:


I was tempted to just duplicate a real gear switch mechanism for mine, but when I began to consider the intricacies of making a 4-position flap switch (which has to be reversible), I came up with something less complicated that will work for either type of switch.

Here's a crude sketch:

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Not sure if the idea is clear from these drawings... the actual knobs or levers are not shown.
The idea here is to avoid pots, rotary switches or complex mechanisms... just a couple of momentary switches and some simple parts.

This will also work for  fuel selectors, cowl flaps or speed brakes/slats.

The ball-bearing latch for the detents could be the type often used for cabinet doors and that sort of thing... not sure if I'll be able to find one small enough, so I may have to make those myself.

You could simply wire these switches to existing inputs on a keyboard or joystick, or use encoders like the Hagstrom boards (which is most likely what I will do).
Haven't built one of these yet, but if I do it right, it should work.
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Reply #1 - Feb 5th, 2007 at 7:59am

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Andrew17,

Here's my gear assembly (and parking brake one too):

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?board=homebuild;action=display;n...

Hope it helps .

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Reply #2 - Feb 5th, 2007 at 9:01am

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JBaymore wrote on Feb 5th, 2007 at 7:59am:
Andrew17,

Here's my gear assembly (and parking brake one too):

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?board=homebuild;action=display;n...

Hope it helps .

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Yes, I should've referred him to this, also... that's nice stuff.

I should check back in your thread to see what you did for flaps... or do you have a post describing that?

I just got a real Piper gear lever and flap handle on eBay... nice billeted aluminum. The flap handle needs a shaft, but that will be easy to make...
 

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Reply #3 - May 10th, 2007 at 4:49pm

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Hi!
Been allowed a spare time slot and I thought about sharing with you last Silver Can updates:
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Finally, I managed to have a throttle lever, it works on a potetiometer linked to the main joystick by the wires in the bent tube; but even if it works fine, it look more like a mixture control....Maybe, I'll add other two levers and use this one for the mixture.
Then, a plywood panel:
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where I'm still designing switches and buttons position.
Seems I've to go. I'll post my ideas for the landing gear, partially hyspired by Rottydaddy and John, partially by warbird research.

Bye!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply #4 - May 10th, 2007 at 10:55pm

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That throttle lever came out real nice... keep up the good work. ;d
 

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Reply #5 - May 11th, 2007 at 9:30am

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Andrew,

As always ...nice work.

I have split the WWII Period Cockpit thread which you started into two parts...... since it was getting WAY long and the pictures in it were probably getting over the limit for a single thread.  

WWII period cockpit (Part I)

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1150751413/30#42


"Sorry...... but it's my job, mon."  Wink

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Reply #6 - May 11th, 2007 at 9:16pm

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D'oh... sorry; I contributed to that with my pics... not even my thread... oops.  Embarrassed
 

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Reply #7 - Oct 6th, 2007 at 8:37am

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No need to be sorry, Rottydaddy, we're sharing a lot of interesting ideas and I'm sure many cockpit builders welcome everybody's contribution.

Last Silvercan updates (not a lot:I'd to away for work..): the wooden panel is mounted inside the cockpit!!!!

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Next step is to build a cover for the windowed monitor, so that to repoduce a better effect with intruments displayed.

I'm continuosly thinking of how to make a realistic WWII control stick and grip. Anybody has ideas?

Bye!!
 
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Reply #8 - Mar 3rd, 2009 at 2:43pm

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Hello Andrew,

do you have any drawings you could share please?

The Rib part especially would be very useful for a home build for me - it's the hardest part to design (and manufacture)

Are all the ribs the same part, just cut down in the cockpit to get the seat in?

Also, how much room do you have in the cockpit?  Would it still be big enough to use the parts were smaller by, say, 10%? 

I have relatively little space, so must plan for this.

Very lovely work with the sheet metal - is it cold inside the cockpit?

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Reply #9 - Mar 19th, 2009 at 7:51pm

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Hi, FM,

a pleasure to get get back to cockpit building issues. Did not have much free time lately..
But your request reminded me my thoughts some time ago.
If you need just an idea of dimentions:

http://www.checksix-forums.com/showthread.php?t=121928

Its something really amazing, and, I think, very close to the real thing, about its dimensions.

If you're interested particularly in my Silver Can, one of thesedays I'll post a sketch of a fuselage former, ok? Wink

If you want to draw yourself some elliptic section, just get a plywood sheet, two screws, a thin rope and a pencil; it's quite easy. Cool. If youre interested I can u give more details.

Inside is cold, yeah, but it's more like at 27,000 ft, and when someone in the head set says "bandits! 11 o'clock!!! They're 109!" you just look at those contrails....

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Reply #10 - Mar 22nd, 2009 at 12:49am

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@ Rottydaddy,

that switch design of your is a great idea... i experimented myself with a somewhat similar design a long time ago... and the concept is valid

mine was a little different though... instead of a cogwheel pushing on  a rocker that pressed the switches, mine had the rocker attached to the lever itself, and the action of moving the lever back and forward caused it rock through a series of bars (toothpicks) that made it press against contacts on the sides as it swayed, much like a guitarist's pick plucks a string... but the concept was similar

of course, mine was made of wood and hot glue... and was a veritable mess  Tongue  ...plus i didn't have microswitches, so i used a bent paperclip that touched against screws, while both were soldered to wires  Roll Eyes

i never tested it in an actual computer scenario... but tests with an improvised current meter  (a light bulb tied to a battery) proved the concept could work

Best of luck on your project, it's going much better already than my previous attempts  Wink

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