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Feb 2nd, 2007 at 9:27pm

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Well, this last few days I've not had much to do so I've been on something of a Cold War British military aircraft binge. Anyways, I thought some of you might appreciate my efforts on youtube. So, without further adoo I gives thee...

Interesting clip with sound a commentry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-sDdVkGVDs

This clip I think has far better footage. However, no sound. I'm not 100% sure about the music but it grows on you. Still, as I said the footage is brilliant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xcb29P_zuY


And now, the possibly the best... The TSR2. Flying. Cool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q_j1heMO2A
 
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Reply #1 - Feb 2nd, 2007 at 10:19pm

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Reply #2 - Feb 3rd, 2007 at 12:08am

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Ohhh, I though you meant THE Lightning....

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Grin Wink

Just kidding, I like the second one there, it was cool to see the vapor forming in the inlet when he throttled up.  The music was kind of weird though. Huh Wink
 
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Reply #3 - Feb 3rd, 2007 at 5:01am
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What great aircraft. The Lightning and the TSR2.

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Not the F-35. Grin
 
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Reply #4 - Feb 3rd, 2007 at 7:13am

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Mobius wrote on Feb 3rd, 2007 at 12:08am:
Ohhh, I though you meant THE Lightning....


Just kidding, I like the second one there, it was cool to see the vapor forming in the inlet when he throttled up.  The music was kind of weird though. Huh Wink


I think they were a bit late naming the F-35. Just like the Typhoon, which people will always know as the Eurofighter as well, the F-35 will end up still being the JSF to a lot of people...
 
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Reply #5 - Feb 3rd, 2007 at 8:47am

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Charlie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2007 at 7:13am:
Mobius wrote on Feb 3rd, 2007 at 12:08am:
Ohhh, I though you meant THE Lightning....


Just kidding, I like the second one there, it was cool to see the vapor forming in the inlet when he throttled up.  The music was kind of weird though. Huh Wink


I think they were a bit late naming the F-35. Just like the Typhoon, which people will always know as the Eurofighter as well, the F-35 will end up still being the JSF to a lot of people...

That and both were named after infinitely superior aircraft. I still expect to see a Hawker Typhoon when ever posts pictures with Typhoon in the title.
 
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Reply #6 - Feb 3rd, 2007 at 9:28am

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Woodlouse2002 wrote on Feb 3rd, 2007 at 8:47am:
Charlie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2007 at 7:13am:
Mobius wrote on Feb 3rd, 2007 at 12:08am:
Ohhh, I though you meant THE Lightning....


Just kidding, I like the second one there, it was cool to see the vapor forming in the inlet when he throttled up.  The music was kind of weird though. Huh Wink


I think they were a bit late naming the F-35. Just like the Typhoon, which people will always know as the Eurofighter as well, the F-35 will end up still being the JSF to a lot of people...

That and both were named after infinitely superior aircraft. I still expect to see a Hawker Typhoon when ever posts pictures with Typhoon in the title.



To be fair the F-35 has been named after two infinately superior aircraft!
 
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Reply #7 - Feb 3rd, 2007 at 9:50am

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Charlie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2007 at 9:28am:
Woodlouse2002 wrote on Feb 3rd, 2007 at 8:47am:
Charlie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2007 at 7:13am:
Mobius wrote on Feb 3rd, 2007 at 12:08am:
Ohhh, I though you meant THE Lightning....


Just kidding, I like the second one there, it was cool to see the vapor forming in the inlet when he throttled up.  The music was kind of weird though. Huh Wink


I think they were a bit late naming the F-35. Just like the Typhoon, which people will always know as the Eurofighter as well, the F-35 will end up still being the JSF to a lot of people...

That and both were named after infinitely superior aircraft. I still expect to see a Hawker Typhoon when ever posts pictures with Typhoon in the title.



To be fair the F-35 has been named after two infinately superior aircraft!

I wouldn't be too sure of that. The P38 was of course known in the RAF as the Castrated Lightning. Huh
 
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Reply #8 - Feb 3rd, 2007 at 8:39pm

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Hmm, the F35 hasn't even entered service yet and already it's quite reviled.  Anti-American bias perhaps?

Still, I hope the F35 never gets the opportunity to earn the battle hardened devotion of planes like the original lightning and typhoon earned.
 
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Reply #9 - Feb 4th, 2007 at 12:43am

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Chris_F wrote on Feb 3rd, 2007 at 8:39pm:
Hmm, the F35 hasn't even entered service yet and already it's quite reviled.  Anti-American bias perhaps?


Nope, you just can't beat a P-38 or EE Lightning - two of the most charismatic aeroplanes the world has ever seen. Smiley

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Still, I hope the F35 never gets the opportunity to earn the battle hardened devotion of planes like the original lightning and typhoon earned.


To be fair, I'm sure most people would be quite happy for its reputation to be un-battle hardened. Wink Smiley
 
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Reply #10 - Feb 4th, 2007 at 11:51pm

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Charlie wrote on Feb 4th, 2007 at 12:43am:
Chris_F wrote on Feb 3rd, 2007 at 8:39pm:
Hmm, the F35 hasn't even entered service yet and already it's quite reviled.  Anti-American bias perhaps?


Nope, you just can't beat a P-38 or EE Lightning - two of the most charismatic aeroplanes the world has ever seen. Smiley


I think the fact that the F-35 is the only vertical take-off, supersonic stealthy fighter (among other things) counts for something.  Maybe not as much as the attributes of previous Lightnings, but still something. Wink
 
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Reply #11 - Feb 5th, 2007 at 7:11am

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Mobius wrote on Feb 4th, 2007 at 11:51pm:
I think the fact that the F-35 is the only vertical take-off, supersonic stealthy fighter (among other things) counts for something.  Maybe not as much as the attributes of previous Lightnings, but still something. Wink


It would be nice if the F-35 is able to do VTO with a) a useful load and b) a decent combat radius. I hope it can.
 
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Reply #12 - Feb 5th, 2007 at 7:33am

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Charlie wrote on Feb 5th, 2007 at 7:11am:
Mobius wrote on Feb 4th, 2007 at 11:51pm:
I think the fact that the F-35 is the only vertical take-off, supersonic stealthy fighter (among other things) counts for something.  Maybe not as much as the attributes of previous Lightnings, but still something. Wink


It would be nice if the F-35 is able to do VTO with a) a useful load and b) a decent combat radius. I hope it can.

Except we pretty well know it can't.
 
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Reply #13 - Feb 5th, 2007 at 9:53am

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Woodlouse2002 wrote on Feb 5th, 2007 at 7:33am:
Charlie wrote on Feb 5th, 2007 at 7:11am:
Mobius wrote on Feb 4th, 2007 at 11:51pm:
I think the fact that the F-35 is the only vertical take-off, supersonic stealthy fighter (among other things) counts for something.  Maybe not as much as the attributes of previous Lightnings, but still something. Wink


It would be nice if the F-35 is able to do VTO with a) a useful load and b) a decent combat radius. I hope it can.

Except we pretty well know it can't.

I'd like to know where you got your crystal ball from.  The plane is still in development and the VTOL variant hasn't even flown.  Actually I don't even know if the VTOL varient is in to SDD yet (I only have a passing exposure to our company's contribution to the plane and it isn't effected by the variant produced).  At current weight it may not be able to do it but since it's still on the drawing board the weight will change.  Thankfully the VTOL plane isn't entering service tomorrow, in fact all variants are still some time away from entering service so expect changes.
 
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Reply #14 - Feb 5th, 2007 at 10:42am

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Chris_F wrote on Feb 5th, 2007 at 9:53am:
I'd like to know where you got your crystal ball from.  The plane is still in development and the VTOL variant hasn't even flown.  Actually I don't even know if the VTOL varient is in to SDD yet (I only have a passing exposure to our company's contribution to the plane and it isn't effected by the variant produced).  At current weight it may not be able to do it but since it's still on the drawing board the weight will change.  Thankfully the VTOL plane isn't entering service tomorrow, in fact all variants are still some time away from entering service so expect changes.


[at this very moment L-M are on the hunt for very small people to go, armed with files, to file away and excess and surplus material they can find in the airframe!]

I'm sure it will be sorted. They could always take the sledgehammer approach - if the aeroplane's heavy a) build a more powerful engine combo, or b) remove superfluos weight, like the pilot... Wink
 
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