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Fozzer wrote on Jan 16^th, 2007 at 2:18pm:


LOL!!!!  If a buyer were really smart, they would sneak in after dark, paint it with the British flag theme, then offer $3000!      

dcunning30 wrote on Jan 16^th, 2007 at 2:48pm:

Nice.

Brett_Henderson wrote on Jan 17^th, 2007 at 8:09am:


But is it really worth that much at halfway to TBO? I guess it would be, but...
And 6000 hours on a 1974 airframe is a lot, compared to most 150s I've seen advertised- I'll bet it worked for a flight school for some time.

Not that it's a rip-off; if I were shopping for a plane right now I'd probably want to go look at it. With a competent mechanic paid to evaluate it for me.

A 150 is a great first airplane- slow, but cheap to operate. This one is probably worth the price stated, because most of the ads I've seen are for 150s with half that TT and lower-time powerplants, going for $12-20,000.

That engine has the mogas STC, too, right? That would be a big money-saver, although the logistics of getting mogas into the plane, filtered correctly, etc. seem a little daunting.


At any rate, it's worth repeating that with airplanes especially, one mustn't be misled by a bargain price... more often than not, the less you pay up front, the more you'll spend down the line...

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A  "clean" 172 with 900+ hours left on the engine, even with that many hours on the airframe, is gonna going to be in the $40,000.00 neighborhood..  and the same 182 would be  at least $50,000.00...

Brett_Henderson wrote on Jan 17^th, 2007 at 9:54am:


That's the tragic irony of the 150... I'll bet you could set one up to accommodate your frame, but try to haul two average-size-and-weight American adult males in a 150, and you're flirting with the edge of the performance envelope.

But I'll bet you'd be comfy in a Citabria; they can be had for around the same price. I've been thinking along those lines for my first plane.


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Interesting. Suddenly I'm wondering... join a flying club for $5K plus dues or buy an airworthy 150 or Citabria or whatever for just a little more...
Hmmmm.


I think I'll go with the club for now, at least until I get my IR ticket, because that money gets me access to four airworthy IFR-certified aircraft, based at airports close to me where I could not afford to keep my own plane.

But on the other hand, I have to share them with about 20 other pilots... but... I dunno. The attendant expenses of sole ownership might make it  too much for me right now.

But in the next few years, who knows? I'll bet last-generation trainers that don't meet LSA requirements are going to get cheaper, even the nice ones.

Now... if I could just find a trustworthy partner      T W O  people dedicated to flying, can put a nice 172 into joint service that actually makes financial sense. The fixed costs (hangar/tie-down, repairs/annuals, insurance and interest) get cut in half.... and the whole thing breaks down to where you start saving at 10 hours/per month, per pilot.

Three owners is ideal, but gets into scheduling problems...

Here's the secret about Tomahawks....  Useful load isn't much over 500lbs.. but that's based on the original engine and the fact that students are the likely pilots (likey to be doing toucn-n-goes with near full tanks).

Modern engine rebuilds are a legit 15hp (200rpm)(10kias) better .. and if you don't plan on bouncing one (often), they can safely carry just over XXXlbs (numbers that shouldn't be published). They aren't 172 numbers, but 400lbs of pilot/passenger can carry a bag or two and more fuel than my bladder can fly 

Compared to a 150/52, they're decent day-trip planes..