I started playing around with mission editor (started with the tutorial) and am having a great time creating missions.

I'm still trying to familiarize myself with the different AAA options and how they affect the mission.  Does anyone know where I can get a summary of the range, fire rate, of the different guns (20mm, 25mm, 75mm, etc.).

Right now as far as I can tell, the 20mm is practically useless, the 25mm has an extremely high fire rate, but small range, and the 75mm gun has a higher range, but a slower fire rate.  I'm not sure though, it's hard to tell who is shooting at me.  I could be wrong.

Anyone know where I can get this info?

Thanks.

Great work H! That great information. Thank you


Burninator if you go to this Website:
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/master_ftp/af-midway/

and look for af_real_aa.zip it will give you a more realistic sound and rate of fire for the CFS2 AAA.



James007

No, it should not! Unless they where using the same type of AAA guns. What will affect the AAA acrucccy of the Ships is the designation you or the Mission designers gave their ships. The categoty they have given the ships in the Mission through the Mision Builder. In other words wheather they are Rockies, Veteran or Ace ships.




James007

How much rotational capability does the AAA have as default?  Also, how do I edit that?  I wasn't able to find that as an option.

Personally, I think it is more fun when the AAA does more damage (the stock 25mm gun is too much, though!).

After going through the mission builder tutorial, I though that option specified the orientation that the infrastucture faced.  For example, with buildings, if you change the orientation the building will face a different direction.  0/360 is north, 90 is east, 180 is south, and 270 is west.  Does it have a different effect on AAA?

Interesting.  I will have to check that out.  Since the default is 0, I may find that I have some very ineffective AAA set up!

I know in the real world, Japanese shipboard AAA was quite inferior due to a) the lack of proximity fuses and b) inferior fire control systems.  The Japanese could throw up alot of led, but they had a low probability of hitting anything.

burninator wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2007 at 7:38pm:

Davecumming great post. I have learn something new. I was was wondering weather we cound use the DEPD utility for AC to alter the DP of the AAA. As for the rotation of the AAA. I was wrong. I'am begining to believe this only effects the position and the direction of the AAA and not the rotational capability of the AAA.

What we can do is place the AAA in different directions as to defend the target better this way.



 
James007  

Yes, Dave.  Thanks a million.   I've been doing this on aircraft turrets in MB for years, and never thought of the obvious.....if it works on aircraft DPs, then it should on object DPs as well.   

I had a look at the type 96 25mm gun DP and checked the historical data.
First the range. In the DP the range at which the weapon will open fire on you is over 7000m, the maximum range of the weapon. As the effective range of the weapon was 3000m and the ready use ammo was around 2000 rds (making it unlikley that they'd start shooting that far out), I changed that to 3000m. Next was rate of fire. The firing interval was too long! The rate is for a single barrel weapon, the image shown in 'info' is a triple barrel. I compromised and doubled the rate of fire to 220 rpm (the sustained rate for a twin mount). Finally the damage. It was given as 1d1*50. The damage caused by an HE round is partly impact (mass) and partly the bang factor. The projectile weight is 0.26kg (a 20mm Hispano round is 0.25) and the bursting charge is 10 grams (20g in a 20mm hispano). Given how close they are I changed the damage to 1d1*30. Now the gun fires twice as fast, does about half the damage but won't shoot until you are closer. This is far more accurate for the usage of light flak; to keep you at altitude!


OMG!!   The flak is crazy! Get too close to a jap airfield now and it's a nightmare! Only bonus is that it only lasts a few seconds...



It was also a framerate killer. I was also forgetting before that the 25mm was a glorified machinegun, based on an old hotchkiss. The japs didn't have time fuses or proximity fuses for the rounds (as far as I can find). They basically explode if they hit something, just like the 20mm or 30mm cannon on aircraft. I went back in to the weapon's DP and changed one of the leading numbers from 4 (which seems to be gun with flakburst) to either a 1 or a 0. Either will work as the sound is triggered by a different number in the sequence, and the damage will happen regardless. Frame rate much improved, no scary flak, just a sudden stream of nasty red messages telling you your aircraft is being shredded...

Piers