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Reply #60 - Jan 29^th, 2007 at 10:44am

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Charlie wrote on Jan 28^th, 2007 at 9:29am:

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CSM wrote on Jan 28^th, 2007 at 3:30am:

ive sat in the copilots seat of a qantas 737 and the copilots seat of a C-130 both during flight

See even he has.

He was less specific though, and Qantas have more 737s than BA ever had Concordes... Wink

Wells they didn't have many Concorde's beacuse they cost around 2-5 BILLION POUNDS when a boeing 737 costs around 20 MILLION POUNDS

Bit of a diffrence.

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Reply #61 - Jan 29^th, 2007 at 11:06am

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Wells they didn't have many Concorde's beacuse they cost around 2-5 BILLION POUNDS when a boeing 737 costs around 20 MILLION POUNDS

Bit of a diffrence.

Well, yes. That has nothing do do with the discussion really though. If (hypothetically) someone wanted to screw someone's career up, there are a lot more 737 pilots to hide amongst than Concorde pilots (fot the sake of this discussion). It's not nice being dropped in it, and it's not a pleasant feeling when you accidentally drop someone in it either, particularly in the world of professional aviating, which is why occasionally the finer details of things are sometimes best kept to oneself.

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Reply #62 - Jan 29^th, 2007 at 7:53pm

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I've been in a F-16 cockpit. Tongue

But it was a the Air Force Museum. Grin

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Reply #63 - Jan 30^th, 2007 at 5:52am

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I can't renember if I've posted in this thread, so I'll respond again Tongue

I've been in the Cockpits of:
A few Boeing 767's
A few Boeing 737's
Many Cessna 152's
Many Cessna 172's
Cirrus sr22
Robinson R44

I'd of loved to of jumpseated Kaitak!
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Wells they didn't have many Concorde's beacuse they cost around 2-5 BILLION POUNDS when a boeing 737 costs around 20 MILLION POUNDS

Dude, Concordes don't cost 4 Billion to 10 Billion $ USD. I'd be surprised if they surpassed 110 million $ USD or 56 Million Pounds. Oh, wait, they're used, better drop that price by 1/3rd.

A new 737 runs for 24 Million pounds, to 41 Million pounds for the Boeing 737-600 and Boeing 737-900ER respectively.

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Reply #64 - Jan 30^th, 2007 at 11:05am

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I can't renember if I've posted in this thread, so I'll respond again Tongue

I've been in the Cockpits of:
A few Boeing 767's
A few Boeing 737's
Many Cessna 152's
Many Cessna 172's
Cirrus sr22
Robinson R44

I'd of loved to of jumpseated Kaitak!
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Wells they didn't have many Concorde's beacuse they cost around 2-5 BILLION POUNDS when a boeing 737 costs around 20 MILLION POUNDS

Dude, Concordes don't cost 4 Billion to 10 Billion $ USD. I'd be surprised if they surpassed 110 million $ USD or 56 Million Pounds. Oh, wait, they're used, better drop that price by 1/3rd.

A new 737 runs for 24 Million pounds, to 41 Million pounds for the Boeing 737-600 and Boeing 737-900ER respectively.

If you got SkyTV or Sky then watch the Discovery Wings channel and watch the program on there called Concorde:The final flight and you shall see stated there around 5 times that it cost betwwen 2-6 BILLION UK POUNDS to buy.

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Reply #65 - Jan 30^th, 2007 at 1:39pm

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you shall see stated there around 5 times that it cost betwwen 2-6 BILLION UK POUNDS to buy.

I think maybe your confusing the cost of buying & the cost of developing.

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Reply #66 - Jan 30^th, 2007 at 2:16pm

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TSC. wrote on Jan 30^th, 2007 at 1:39pm:

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you shall see stated there around 5 times that it cost betwwen 2-6 BILLION UK POUNDS to buy.

I think maybe your confusing the cost of buying & the cost of developing.

TSC.

Especially as BA brought them for a pound each.

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Reply #67 - Jan 30^th, 2007 at 2:26pm

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I would have gladly bought them for a pound...

... damn 9/11 ruining aviation....

... damn french for not clearing runways of bits of plane that could cause a fatal concorde crash...

...DAMN THEM!!....

... Grin

(I actually mean D A M N, stupid filter)

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Reply #68 - Jan 30^th, 2007 at 2:37pm

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Woodlouse2002 wrote on Jan 30^th, 2007 at 2:16pm:

Especially as BA brought them for a pound each.

Actually Woody my fellow westcountry'un, thats not quite right:

From British Airways themselves: http://www.britishairways.com/concorde/faq.html#6

Did the British Government give Concorde to British Airways for one pound UK sterling?
Claims that we paid GBP1.00 (UK Sterling) for the Concorde fleet or that it was given in trust are wrong.
British Airways predecessors paid the manufacturers more than GBP155 million for the Concorde fleet (source:1977/78 Report and Accounts) and over the following 27 years of operation British Airways has invested more than GBP1 billion in the fleet.

The Concorde book value was written down to nil in 1979 and subsequent capital investments to 1983 were also written off to nil. (source: 1987 Prospectus on British Airways privatisation)

In March 1984 the government ended its involvement with Concorde when British Airways assumed full responsibility for Concorde support costs. British Airways Board paid GBP16.5 million to acquire the government's stock of spare parts and was released from the profit share scheme under which the government collected 80 per cent of Concorde operating surpluses.

In 1987 the government privatised British Airways and collected more than GBP900 million for selling its interest in the airline, including Concorde.

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Reply #69 - Jan 31^st, 2007 at 9:37am

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I am working for a company who is providing ground services for airlines in Romania.
I was in the cockpit of KLM from LROP to EHAM and back.Boeing 737-800 and 737-900.
In the cockpit of the aircrafts at the position I enter daily ... part of my job. Roll Eyes

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Reply #70 - Jan 31^st, 2007 at 4:05pm

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Anark wrote on Jan 30^th, 2007 at 2:26pm:

... damn french for not clearing runways of bits of plane that could cause a fatal concorde crash...

Good that we've now got FOD radars beginning to appear.

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Reply #71 - Feb 1^st, 2007 at 6:50am

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Charlie wrote on Jan 31^st, 2007 at 4:05pm:

Anark wrote on Jan 30^th, 2007 at 2:26pm:

... damn french for not clearing runways of bits of plane that could cause a fatal concorde crash...

Good that we've now got FOD radars beginning to appear.

What about the fact that the French had serviced the gear on that particular night and had not fitted the axle spacer between the wheels and that main wheel assembly shook themselves to death. There is a whole lot more to this story than a small bit of metal on the runway.
Took of with the wind
Took of overloaded
Engineer shut down an engine 20 kts below safe operating speed without consent of the captain.
Soot marks on the runway well before the metal strip was found.
And Air France in the middle of being privitised, but as Charlie has pointed out, going a little off topic now.

Matt

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Reply #72 - Feb 1^st, 2007 at 3:50pm

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In order of flight:

Piper Seneca II as a young kid with my uncle at the controls....

Spring 2003 - Flew a Piper Cheyenne III with the marines trying to recruit me

Spring 2006 - Flew Embraer erj-135 as part of a class

got to start it up, taxi to runway, fly 20 minutes in flight manuevers, and sit jumpseat on landing

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Reply #73 - Feb 2^nd, 2007 at 12:33pm

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Been in a few cockpits
-Cessna 172s, which I fly mostly
-DA-20s, which I've flown once but kinda wish I flew more
-Boeing 737-800 during flight. 9/11 rules don't apply in canadian domestic flights! Cheesy

-CRJ-700 on the ground
-Boeing 737-200 on the ground

Cheers,
RB

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Reply #74 - Feb 2^nd, 2007 at 1:29pm

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Does the front seat of an A-4, A-6, A-3 or F-4, looking at the centerline of a Carrier, worth mentioning?? However, Those were the days of "steam guages" - I would have to admit that I would have some problems interpreting the new "Video Pong" displays in todays jetliners!

R/Mike
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