Agreed.....just because someones scenery is nice doesnt mean that they take good screenshots. And that is what this studio is for....looking beyond the plane and scenery and seeing how people put effort into their shots

.Mic

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Well it's fine to say "nice shots" to any set of screenshots, because after all, it's never nice to have your threads seemingly ignored! But some people do tend to go a little over the top in what they say. If you ask me, no screenshot I have ever seen has warranted " "!

I think that a photoreal tail or something can help complete a shot.  Yes it is annoying when its a picture of a tail on a blue backdrop and people go WOW, but lets say its a sunset pic or something where a tail that isn't photoreal might ruin it.

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You've proved my point then. It would otherwise be a bad shot, and so why is it all of a sudden transformed when photoreal is introduced? It's just the graphics over substance, really. (Yes, I think my graphics are fine! )

Difficult subject here, gents!   

I think there are more aspects to taking a good screnshot than one might think. And I certainly think that a good combination of all those factors will give you a beautiful shot. I mean, if you have a shot and the composition and colours are excellent, but the grapics suck, it is not a good shot. And if you have a shot with really beautiful graphics, but lacks the other things, you don't have a good shot either.

I think we should look at the importance of the different aspects. For me, it's somewhat in this order:

Originality
Composition
Colours (mood / feel)
Graphics
Time put into the shot

I'm sure I can think of a lot more factors that contribute to a shot, but these I have now. A shot, any shot, can't be good if it lacks one of these things. I also think that, sometimes, the graphics add a ot more to the shot than just a good look. I pay great respect to someone who spends a lot of time searching for better textures and tweeking the sim. I agree on the fact that the makers of these add-ons should get part of the credit though.

Graphics are also important in another way. For example: if you are ready to take your shot in FS and you have paused the game. Let's say you take two shots. One with everything maxed out and one with every slider set to 'low' or '0'. I think that everybody will prefer the 'maxed' shot.

Just my 2 cents...

It depends what the shot is for and why it was taken.

Don't forget not every one only posts finely crafted and posed shots to impress. I only post stuff I think is quite good and worthy of the forum, but not every one has to be a masterpiece. Often each shot is just part of a set recording a flight, and then there's nothing wrong with a photoreal tail against a blue sky, if it looks nice. I like shots like that because they make me feel like a passenger or mechanic on the apron, looking up at the mammoth plane I'm about to board or service.

If it's part of a contest shot, like Vavavoom's (which I voted for), such a simple shot wouldn't be good - but Vavavoom's had a lot more going on in it than just tail plus sky.... other planes, great lighting and composition, originality, etc.

FS doesn't come with much, if any photoreal stuff. Finding the photoreal stuff counts as effort put in, and taking it from the right height or angle so it looks truly realistic takes a degree of skill. So IMHO there's nothing 'below standard' about shots featuring photoreal add-ons.

Prejudice against photoreal stuff is similar as that against payware environment packages, scenery or planes - some people seem to think it's payware so it's 'easy' or 'cheating' in some way. Yet they go mad over FSX with its reflective water which comes with the package, and for which you need to spend a ton of money to get a comp that can run the sim fluidly, far more than a few payware purchases cost that improve FS9 no end, like Flight and Ground Environment. Maybe I'm wrong about this 'anti-payware prejudice', but there must be some reason why people hardly go in there....

Just my two cents...

Krigl

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Thank you very much, Tweek!!!! I'm honoured! It is one of my all time favourites too...

I often have the feeling that people don't like my stuff, because it's too unrealistic or something. Like the VOZtour set I'm linking to in my sig, which I really liked but no one commented on, or in fact even looked at. It's great to hear that somebody appreciates my
favourite style of shot - lots of action, clouds and colour.... reality be damned   I like 'realistic' shots too, of course, I'm just not good at making them

Cheers

Krigl

ps. I'd appreciate any comments on that set 'Voztour 15 pt1'. I'm asking for CRITICISM - rip them if you like. I'd love to know what I'm 'doing wrong'. I'm going on holiday now, but I'll check back in a week.