Simviation Forum - Flight dynamics of addon planes

Dec 30^th, 2006 at 7:41am

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Hi all, first time posting on this area of the forum, but I'm a regular elsewhere on Simviation.

I've had a copy of CFS3 for quite some time. I was initially turned off to the program when I first installed it due to the flight modeling of the default planes, they just weren't nearly as "real" feeling as the planes in MSFS9. I place a very high emphasis on flight modeling in combat sims (not so much in civilian sims) so this disappointed me enough that the game lasted a total of one week on my system and I deleted it.

I've heard from other forums that the addon planes fly much better than the default planes. Is this true? In order for me to get interested in this game again I'd like the planes to fly at least as well as the MSFS9 default planes, although even this would be sub-par for me.

I'd like a good WWII combat sim and am considering buying IL2 but I feel bad since I already have a perfectly good unused copy of CFS3 sitting on my shelf.

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Reply #1 - Dec 30^th, 2006 at 7:43am

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Avhistory's 1% aircraft are supposed to be realistic

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Reply #2 - Dec 30^th, 2006 at 9:26am

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The 1% crew make it their business to create flightmodels that are within 1% of the real thing. They've just revamped their whole process so the models they're producing now should be the most accurate ever.

If it's flight dynamic realism you're after then you really don't want IL2 or any of it's spawn. The fanboys might think it's realistic but aviation wouldn't exist if it was.

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Reply #3 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 9:17am

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Woodlouse2002 wrote on Dec 30^th, 2006 at 9:26am:

If it's flight dynamic realism you're after then you really don't want IL2 or any of it's spawn. The fanboys might think it's realistic but aviation wouldn't exist if it was.

I have LOMAC, which I believe is from the same development team, and find it to have one of the most accurate flight models of anything I've flown on PC. I've never tried IL2 but would be suprised if they got it so right with LOMAC and so wrong with IL2. But I'll give the avhistory guys a try. Right now I can't seem to find their download page, seems the link isn't an actual link...

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Reply #4 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 10:00am

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There is no connection between Lomac (Eagle Dynamics ) & IL2 (IC Maddox). BTW one of our former Russian team mates went 'pro' & took a job with Eagle Dynamics as a flight model dynamics develpoer.

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Reply #5 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 10:05am

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AvHistory wrote on Dec 31^st, 2006 at 10:00am:

There is no connection between Lomac (Eagle Dynamics ) & IL2 (IC Maddox). BTW one of our former Russian team mates went 'pro' & took a job with Eagle Dynamics as a flight model dynamics develpoer.

Ah, then I was misinformed. BTW, on your website there are five buttons at the top ("Knowledge Base" "Message Board" etc). When I click on the "CFS3 1% Downloads" nothing happens, it appears that it's not a link. Same with all the others except Message Board. How do I get to your downloads?

It appears you offer some great products. Reminds me of the GPLEA guys for the game Grand Prix Legends, a group of folks almost fanatically devoted to faithful digital recreation of the past. Can't wait to DL that Mediterranean Air War mod and load up CFS3.

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Reply #6 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 10:21am

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If you scroll down the page on the avhistory site you will see on the right hand side a columb of the latest releases for download.

Also, if you wait for the page to fully load, then hover your mouse over where it says CFS3 1% downloads, then you will see a drop down menu of various nations. Move the mouse down and you will then be given catigorys for each nation, choose one and you'll then be able to see what they've done and what they want to do.

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Reply #7 - Dec 31^st, 2006 at 11:26am

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Chris_F wrote on Dec 31^st, 2006 at 10:05am:

[ BTW, on your website there are five buttons at the top ("Knowledge Base" "Message Board" etc). When I click on the "CFS3 1% Downloads" nothing happens, it appears that it's not a link. Same with all the others except Message Board. How do I get to your downloads?

If you are using IE-7 try this patch.

http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=70356

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Reply #8 - Jan 1^st, 2007 at 12:14pm

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AvHistory wrote on Dec 31^st, 2006 at 11:26am:

Chris_F wrote on Dec 31^st, 2006 at 10:05am:

[ BTW, on your website there are five buttons at the top ("Knowledge Base" "Message Board" etc). When I click on the "CFS3 1% Downloads" nothing happens, it appears that it's not a link. Same with all the others except Message Board. How do I get to your downloads?

If you are using IE-7 try this patch.

http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=70356

Hmm, didn't seem to work for me. Don't know why, I tried it a couple times in a couple different ways.

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Reply #9 - Jan 1^st, 2007 at 1:11pm

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