Simviation Forum - Perfect Gear-Up Landing

Dec 19^th, 2006 at 4:33pm

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Reply #1 - Dec 19^th, 2006 at 7:20pm

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I believe the commenter had just enough knowledge to be dumb. That appears to me to be a B100 King air, which has Garrett engines, not PT-6's. But whatever, was a nice way to handle a gear problem. Couldn't have done better myself.

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Reply #2 - Dec 19^th, 2006 at 10:29pm

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Better than text book Cheesy

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Reply #3 - Dec 19^th, 2006 at 10:37pm

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Better then some landings I've seen with the gear down!!

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Reply #4 - Dec 20^th, 2006 at 3:07am

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I watched the whole thing live on TV as it happened ....... what they don't show is the 30 minutes of fly bys whilst they tried to solve the gear problems.

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Reply #5 - Dec 20^th, 2006 at 10:35am

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As heat could have been a problem for an unfoamed runway, maybe a landing on the grass would have been an option ?..........just a thought Huh

In any event, a very nice end to a situation out of the norm......... Cool

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Reply #6 - Dec 20^th, 2006 at 12:34pm

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Rifleman wrote on Dec 20^th, 2006 at 10:35am:

As heat could have been a problem for an unfoamed runway, maybe a landing on the grass would have been an option ?..........just a thought Huh

In any event, a very nice end to a situation out of the norm......... Cool

If he landed on grass, would you not run the risk of the aircraft digging in on a soft surface and then doing major damage. Also if heat became an issue with a subsequent fire, vehicles could travel quicker on tarmac than the grass.

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Reply #7 - Dec 20^th, 2006 at 12:44pm

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WOW! That was great....

But newscasters are so stupid! 'He is doing something he isnt used to' NO DUH! He usually has GEAR!!! Stupid news people Tongue

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Reply #8 - Dec 20^th, 2006 at 9:13pm

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Rifleman wrote on Dec 20^th, 2006 at 10:35am:

As heat could have been a problem for an unfoamed runway, maybe a landing on the grass would have been an option ?..........just a thought Huh

In any event, a very nice end to a situation out of the norm......... Cool

landing on grass in an airport environment could be a very bad idea due to the various lights and taxiways. hitting those while skidding will do a lot more damage to the plane than landing on the runway.

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Reply #9 - Dec 21^st, 2006 at 10:31am

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But newscasters are so stupid! 'He is doing something he isnt used to' NO DUH! He usually has GEAR!!! Stupid news people Tongue

They just don't have much to say Grin

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Reply #10 - Dec 21^st, 2006 at 11:31am

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eno wrote on Dec 20^th, 2006 at 3:07am:

what they don't show is the 30 minutes of fly bys whilst they tried to solve the gear problems.

This doesn't subtract from the pilot's ability, does it? Wink

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Reply #11 - Dec 21^st, 2006 at 7:25pm

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You can almost hear the disappointment in the newscaster's voice when the plane touched down perfectly.

"Darn it! I thought we'd get to watch someone burn up and die on the air today!"

Beautiful landing. It almost looks like they could just winch that plane up, pull down the gear, and go flying away like nothing happened! That B1B pilot in the other thread must've been trying to one-up that guy...

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Reply #12 - Dec 21^st, 2006 at 8:04pm

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WOW! That was great....

But newscasters are so stupid! 'He is doing something he isnt used to' NO DUH! He usually has GEAR!!! Stupid news people Tongue

I think the very good point that he so poorly tried to make was that everything is a bit different on approach in the "clean" configration; which presents another challenge...it's worse sometimes when they try to educate people, but oddly enough lack the verbal skills... ever notice how many people who earn their living talking on the air can barely form a coherent sentence on their own? Whassupwiddat?

What I learned from this is that it's worth it to trade runway for a nice slow descent in that situation; after all, once you make contact, your "roll" will be very, very short.
He held it off a good, long time, and it paid off with a very low descent rate at touchdown. Well done!!

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Reply #13 - Dec 21^st, 2006 at 8:44pm

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"Had those props been spinning, it would have spun those PT-6 engines right off their mounts."

I would think that the prop would disintegrate before it ripped the engine off of its mount, but thats just me. One of two things would happen; the prop would tear itself apart on impact, leaving the shaft spinning until the engine stopped, or the shock from the blade hitting tarmac would travel through the shaft and completely wreck the gearbox. In either event, the engines would likely stay firmly bolted to the wing, just with everything from the gearbox forward well and truly wrecked.

But I could be wrong, am I?

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Reply #14 - Dec 22^nd, 2006 at 12:45am

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the props would bend back like sardine cans. the engines would also need to be completely torn down too which would be $$$.

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