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FSX vrs FS9... is it really THAT different? (Read 5667 times)

Nov 25^th, 2006 at 9:54am

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I know that FSX hasn´t been too long in the market, and there are not many add ons and so on and so forth.... but I see a trend in the screenshots forums... there is a very repetitive question posted:

"Is it FSX or FS9"

What I´m getting at is, if people who almost "live" in the FS world cant easily make the difference in the shots, is it really that different?

Yes, on careful inspection there are some subtle differences between them (as far as I can see on the posts, I don´t have FSX yet), but after reading so many posts in this and other forums about the problems, glitches, bugs and absurd behavior of FSX ( not to mention the considerable amount of money and time needed to be expended to get FSX running decently on most systems), there is one question that keeps jumping in my mind... is FSX really worth it, when on first (and second and maybe even third) inspection I cant tell the difference betweent it and FS9?

Maybe when DX10 and Vista are released there might be a noticeable difference that justify the investment, the headaches and the frustration, but right now, I don´t see a reason for it... (assuming that DX10 and Vista do not add to the investment, headaches and frustration carried on by FSX), but until then.... I just dont know.

Well, actually, I do know... when FSX gets down here, I´ll probably get myself a copy, and join the club of frustrated, angry, screaming, unsatisfied yet excited users.... Wink

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Reply #1 - Nov 25^th, 2006 at 10:45am

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Yes.. there are many, big differences.. too many to list. Most important to me, is that the flight algorithms are more realistic..

As for screen-shots ? FS9, with add-on scenery is better, visually, than stock FSX at settings low enough for most computer to run it and be flyable. FSX with the scenery cranked up rivals even the best FS9 add-ons.. and that's not even a fair comparison. The trick is having the computer to handle it.

Now.. imagine FSX when add-on scenery catches up Grin

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Reply #2 - Nov 25^th, 2006 at 11:13am

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"Is it FSX or FS9? "
The latter for me.

I bought FSX the day it came out, October 7, 2006, and after giving it a thorough going-over on my system, I gave up on it after a month.

I'll load it from time-to-time but really don't have two-three minutes for a sim to load or to change from season-to-season or from day-to-night.

Friends of mine want to buy their kids a flight-simulator for Christmas, and asked me for recommendations; I said pick up an old copy of FS9. Save the kids all the hassle. Life's too short.

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Reply #3 - Nov 25^th, 2006 at 12:33pm

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"Is it FSX or FS9? "
The latter for me.

I bought FSX the day it came out, October 7, 2006, and after giving it a thorough going-over on my system, I gave up on it after a month.

I'll load it from time-to-time but really don't have two-three minutes for a sim to load or to change from season-to-season or from day-to-night.

Friends of mine want to buy their kids a flight-simulator for Christmas, and asked me for recommendations; I said pick up an old copy of FS9. Save the kids all the hassle. Life's too short.

My thoughts exactly...I just installed FSX yesterday and was highly disappointed.. Undecided

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Reply #4 - Nov 25^th, 2006 at 1:21pm

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It's no hassle at all..or disappointing.. if your computer is up to the task. Once you get used to FSX.. it's really tough to enjoy FS9..

Forget how much more "real" everything looks in FSX. It's the flight model that I can't get over. Just shoot a dozen landings in FSX and them jump over to FS9 and try it.. Roll Eyes

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Reply #5 - Nov 25^th, 2006 at 1:40pm

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Indeed, FSX is much better.

And all those people just went in with the expection that it would run just as FS9 does, but i tell everyone to expect the lowest and then build up from that bit by bit. it may take a while but you can get it running alright and looking better then FS9 on a low end comp.

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Reply #6 - Nov 25^th, 2006 at 2:50pm

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FSX is brillaint a lovely enviroment, i run on high settings locked at 20FPS, and i only fly in england and random places no cities so im alawys between 18 and 20 FPS which is fine for me.

i have however started to use my FS9 again because as said before it takes a good 2 mins to load a flight in FSX comapred to 20secs in FS9.

but FSX ftw....as soon as i get another gig of ram Tongue

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Reply #7 - Nov 25^th, 2006 at 2:53pm

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Indeed, FSX is much better.

And all those people just went in with the expection that it would run just as FS9 does, but i tell everyone to expect the lowest and then build up from that bit by bit. it may take a while but you can get it running alright and looking better then FS9 on a low end comp.

Nobody, absolutly nobody thought FSX would run as good as FS9 with the sliders maxed on both.
We did assume that with comparable graphics and the sliders dumbed down to FS9 levels it would at least run as good.

Also, with the added year of development, most thought it would not have as many bugs as it does.

FSX is a flawed program as it stands now.
To think otherwise is to hide ones head in the sand.

FSX has flaws well beyond the ability of DX10 and VISTA to fix them. This must be accepted and addressed (by simmers and MS) if FSX is to survive beyond this release.

MS seems to have a couple of self serving answers to the critiques or FSX.
They either say "peole do not undestand what FSX is all about"or they say FSX is just a blank canvas for third pary developers to strighten out and fix.

Sorry MS but, the general public (many who are first time simmers) expect FSX to run out of the box without glitches.
A major patch (other than a DX10/VISTA patch) is the only salvation for FSX.

I have been around a long time and to put it bluntly I know BS when I see it and FSX definately has some major issues.

Bottom line .....FS is supposed to be fun.
It FSX maks FS to be not fun anymore, what is the point?
We all might as well use FS9 until such time FSX is patched sufficiently.
It FSX is not patched sufficiently, I'm afraid FSX might be the end of the line for the FS series.

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Reply #8 - Nov 25^th, 2006 at 3:10pm

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Where are all these flaws and glitches, I've got over 50 hours in FSX and haven't noticed anything? ???

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Reply #9 - Nov 25^th, 2006 at 3:14pm

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Where are all these flaws and glitches, I've got over 50 hours in FSX and haven't noticed anything? ???

I will have to vacation/holiday in your universe some time.
It really sounds like a fun, carefree place. Wink

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Reply #10 - Nov 25^th, 2006 at 4:13pm

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I've run it for countless hours.. I'm as pleased as can be.. It's WAY more than I was hoping for.. And considering the huge leap in complexity and features.. it's not that buggy at all . Sure there are some glitches, but nothing to warrant even a forum post as gloomy as as yours, Joe.

I'm as avid a simmer as you'll find... I've made of few widely used add-ons too. It's a GREAT sim that will only get better...

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Reply #11 - Nov 25^th, 2006 at 4:17pm

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It depends on your expectations! Much prettier scenery, better flight dynamics, improved lighting, much much higher terain mesh detail and accuracy and much much higher ground texture and variety, a fabulous looking ocean and much higher resolutions all round! Also if you have got the ultimate gaming PC yet available; much improved autogen!

FSX is not yet polished though and as said has a few issues, but learn the work arounds and this is still the finest flight sim to date and I am loathed to go back to FS9 ATM. If only MS get it's finger out though and address the performance issues and other niggles this new flight sim could kick some serious butt!

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Reply #12 - Nov 25^th, 2006 at 4:20pm

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I will have to vacation/holiday in your universe some time.
It really sounds like a fun, carefree place. Wink

Wink

I'm totally serious Joe, I just want to know what some of these flaws are so I can check them out, and see what I have missed. I've done alot of flying in FSX, and just about every type of flying that can be done in FSX, and I am curious. Are they flaws like, "Yesterday I went flying in real life, and as I was landing, there was a big gust of wind, but then when I got home and loaded FSX with real-world weather, there was no gust!", or are they more along the lines of, "Whenever I start to climb, the VSI says I'm descending!"? I'm genuinely curious, I've given up trying to argue, and I'd like to see it from your point of view, but short of installing it on a 10-year old computer, I haven't been able to see what the huge problems are.

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Reply #13 - Nov 25^th, 2006 at 4:28pm

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Bottom line .....FS is supposed to be fun.
It FSX maks FS to be not fun anymore, what is the point?

I'm having loads of fun ! Grin

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Reply #14 - Nov 25^th, 2006 at 4:59pm

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Where are all these flaws and glitches, I've got over 50 hours in FSX and haven't noticed anything? ???

Same thing here, but I haven't put on as many hours yet.

The only reason is that I found out that my favorite joystick won't work with the rig that I installed FSX on (can't find my gameport -> USB converter). So. . .I have been flying with the keyboard ( Roll Eyes

Roll Eyes

). I am not the best "finger-flyer" out there. . . need to go get that adapter or new joystick asap Grin

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One problem that I have noticed is the load times are a bit long. . .I can live with that.

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