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Nov 23^rd, 2006 at 8:30am

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Hi everyone, long time no read Cheesy

I have a school prject regarding the english language in aviation. What I was hoping was that if all you could inform me of the regulations reagarding language proficiency for pilots in your countries. Here (Finland) at least I have the regs, but I was wondering what the FAA regs were. It's a pain in the butt searching for them online, and I would appreciate if I could get some other foreign ones.

Thanks already Wink

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Reply #1 - Nov 23^rd, 2006 at 8:33am

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Al Dutch regs start with PH + 3 letters if that is what you mean..

As an example- Our Resident B-25 will get the registration soon of PH-XXV ( XXV being roman for 25 For B-25)

I know the British reg is G+ Four letters Like==> G-SOUI or G-SIMV

Is this what you mean?

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Reply #2 - Nov 23^rd, 2006 at 10:04am

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Danish : OY-XXX
Norwegian: LN-XXX
Swedish: SE-XXX
German: D-XXXX
French: F-XXXX
American: NXXXXXX ( Grin

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Reply #3 - Nov 23^rd, 2006 at 10:24am

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I think we are talking REGULATIONS here, not registrations.

GOOGLE 1

GOOGLE 2

there are just a couple of quick searches ..... I'm sure if you put more specific criteria into your search engine you'll get more specific results.

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Reply #4 - Nov 23^rd, 2006 at 1:13pm

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I'm sorry I'm not at your help, fellow neighbor (I live in Sweden, near ESOW).

But the misunderstandings in this thread are just hilarious Grin

The dude ask for language proficiency, and he receives registrations on aircrafts Grin

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Reply #5 - Nov 23^rd, 2006 at 1:34pm

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But the misunderstandings in this thread are just hilarious Grin

The dude ask for language proficiency, and he receives registrations on aircrafts Grin

It's almost as good as a recent thread in the Cafe about post counts where everyone starting giving out their weight. Grin

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Reply #6 - Nov 23^rd, 2006 at 8:57pm

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i think he is looking for the FAA regulation

Federal Aviation regulations part 61.103 (c)

To be eligible for a private pilot certificate, a person must:

(a) Be at least 17 years of age for a rating in other than a glider or balloon.

(b) Be at least 16 years of age for a rating in a glider or balloon.

(c) Be able to read, speak, write, and understand the English language. If the applicant is unable to meet one of these requirements due to medical reasons, then the Administrator may place such operating limitations on that applicant's pilot certificate as are necessary for the safe operation of the aircraft.

i have always thought that is pretty broad - "read speak write and understand the english language." its a pretty big language... you mean i have to be able to read speak write and understand the ENTIRE language... what if there is a word i dont know? will i have my license revoked or application denied?? LOL
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doesnt get any more involved than to say "Read speak write and understand the english language."

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Reply #7 - Nov 24^th, 2006 at 3:34am

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i have always thought that is pretty broad - "read speak write and understand the english language." its a pretty big language... you mean i have to be able to read speak write and understand the ENTIRE language... what if there is a word i dont know? will i have my license revoked or application denied?? LOL

To be considered to be able to speak a language you need to have a vocabulary of only about 4000 words. When you think that the English language has about 60000 words, that is not a lot. As for reading, if you can speak, you can understand more than you are capable of saying. How often do you read the paper, but never use some of the "big" words that you have understood. As for writing, that is for me the grey area. I can write in German, but only if I want to make your eyes bleed as you read it, but whether you understand what I have read, that is the important part.

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Reply #8 - Nov 24^th, 2006 at 11:26am

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i have always thought that is pretty broad - "read speak write and understand the english language." its a pretty big language... you mean i have to be able to read speak write and understand the ENTIRE language... what if there is a word i dont know? will i have my license revoked or application denied?? LOL
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Joke lol

but it is true, for a bunch of lawyers who wrote a book in blood so to speak that is a pretty broad statement. Im surprised they didnt say something like "Be able to read, speak, write and understand english on a 12th grade level or greater, OR must demonstrate the ability to read speak write and understand english by passing a standardized written english examination with a minimum passing score of 70%, and the examination must be administered by a certified public school teacher or college level professor who is certified by the FAA for the purposes of conducting said test" and on and on and on.

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Reply #9 - Nov 24^th, 2006 at 11:46am

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Joke lol

but it is true, for a bunch of lawyers who wrote a book in blood so to speak that is a pretty broad statement. Im surprised they didnt say something like "Be able to read, speak, write and understand english on a 12th grade level or greater, OR must demonstrate the ability to read speak write and understand english by passing a standardized written english examination with a minimum passing score of 70%, and the examination must be administered by a certified public school teacher or college level professor who is certified by the FAA for the purposes of conducting said test" and on and on and on.

Here in Germany to get an unlimited residents permit, all I needed to do was show basic language skills, but for citizenship I would have to pass written language tests. So yes for something that carries the weight of the law and as complex as aviation, the requirement it is more than rather vague.

Matt

PS I realise you where not serious about your entire language remark Wink

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Reply #10 - Nov 24^th, 2006 at 12:58pm

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cool - sometimes hard to tell with text Tongue

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Reply #11 - Nov 24^th, 2006 at 3:42pm

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Wow, that was alot for 1 day Cheesy

Thanks guys, and yes sorry if I was unclear, I did mean the regulations regarding hw well and under what circumstances you are supposed to be able to speak English. I know mosy countries just divert to teh ICAO standards, or here in Europe to the JAR books.

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