Simviation Forum - First patch released already

Nov 21^st, 2006 at 8:22pm

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MS has released a patch for Add-on scenery. Has something to do with large photo scenery files. Todd

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Reply #1 - Nov 21^st, 2006 at 8:28pm

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Sorry, here is the link:
http://www.fsinsider.com/Downloads/

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Reply #2 - Nov 21^st, 2006 at 8:43pm

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Released and installed thanks for the headsup and link.

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Reply #3 - Nov 21^st, 2006 at 8:55pm

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Your Welcome,

Do you think it made any difference? Did you notice problems with any areas before the patch was released? Thanks, Todd

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Reply #4 - Nov 22^nd, 2006 at 1:07am

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Its only for those using add-on high res scenery however it does not hurt to install it.

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Reply #5 - Nov 22^nd, 2006 at 1:47am

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I wonder when a REAL patch that fixes performance issues will come out?

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Reply #6 - Nov 22^nd, 2006 at 3:21am

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I wonder when a REAL patch that fixes performance issues will come out?

DITO! 8)

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Reply #7 - Nov 22^nd, 2006 at 4:17am

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The Autogen in fsX is poorly designed. I don't care if it was designed for 2012's computers.

It is now, 2006, and the fact that to get decent framerates you have to make the scenery look like crap is just pethetic.

I flew from KSEA to KPDX and it looked, and ran pethetically. That's with autogen on sparse.

No I am not running a Pentium 2, I was running a P4 650, 2gb RAM and X850.

I am just so mad and disappointed that it runs like this.

They need a patch.

End Rant. Anyway, that's just my opinion, and sorry if you don't agree. Cheesy

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Reply #8 - Nov 22^nd, 2006 at 7:56am

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try ian thatchers autogen fix on scenery page 1
(even my wife was impressed-that says a lot Shocked

Roddy

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Reply #9 - Nov 22^nd, 2006 at 10:28am

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i havent tryed the autogen fix, but what i normally do is no autogen, but rather max out all my ground settings. I get 8 FPS in dense citys and i can (though i lock it at 25) get 35fps in the country and mountians. It works for me Grin

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Reply #10 - Nov 22^nd, 2006 at 11:16am

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" Do you think it made any difference?"
Negative.
Now if I could just get a patch to change my bright-green bridges to have some texture I' d be happier. I haven't installed the texture-modifications by Ian Thatcher but will do soon.

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Reply #11 - Nov 22^nd, 2006 at 12:59pm

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I wonder when a REAL patch that fixes performance issues will come out?

When it's completed and fully tested by the beta team of course! Grin

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Reply #12 - Nov 22^nd, 2006 at 1:07pm

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When it's completed and fully tested by the beta team of course! Grin

I thought we are the final BETA team.... Wink

Home airports are KMGJ and KSWF in Orange County, NY&&Stop by and say hello.

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Reply #13 - Nov 22^nd, 2006 at 11:28pm

DizZa Ex Member

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When it's completed and fully tested by the beta team of course! Grin

So there IS a patch? Yay...

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I thought we are the final BETA team.... Wink

Hehe...

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Reply #14 - Nov 23^rd, 2006 at 10:15am

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Hey DizZa, what happened?

Now you say:

Quote:

The Autogen in fsX is poorly designed. I don't care if it was designed for 2012's computers.

It is now, 2006, and the fact that to get decent framerates you have to make the scenery look like crap is just pethetic.

I flew from KSEA to KPDX and it looked, and ran pethetically. That's with autogen on sparse.

No I am not running a Pentium 2, I was running a P4 650, 2gb RAM and X850.

I am just so mad and disappointed that it runs like this.

They need a patch.

End Rant. Anyway, that's just my opinion, and sorry if you don't agree. Cheesy

Thanks

Before you said:

Quote:

Cool post and it's pretty much 100% correct. However, I guess I am in a boat in which no-one else is in; my fsX runs perfectly.

I just had an amazing flight, KJAC (Jackson Hole), to U59 (driggs reed mem). Turn up your mesh and texture settings, and take that Flight. You will enjoy it!

fsX by default runs like crap. Do ALL these tweaks, optimize your system, mess with driver settings, and boom, it made my fsX run awsome on my upper midrange system. (AMD 3500+, 2gb RAM, X850XT PE).

Vista RC2 runs OK. So I'm planning on getting a mid-lower end DX10 video card + Vista. With the Vista optimizations I hope to push some settings higher while still retaining the same framerate (Same Framerate is 20-23fps and very smooth).

hehe I don't think Microsoft is going to sue you over saying MS, or M$. Cheesy

EDIT: I wrote M $ and it changed to M$. What's going on!?

Did you downgrade??? Wink

lol

Sorry for this slightly trollish post, but I remember countless 'It runs just fine on my KillZor rig Grin

" posts from DiZza a few weeks back and it just it made me laugh.... Cheesy

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Reply #15 - Nov 23^rd, 2006 at 11:54am

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I thought we are the final BETA team.... Wink

No! You folks are the DELTA team... you know, the guys who rampage, rape and pillage, er... I mean, go in and settle disputes using "agressive negotiations..." Grin

Bill
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Reply #16 - Nov 23^rd, 2006 at 1:52pm

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" . . . rampage, rape and pillage"

Hey, nobody's perfect . . . but, always remember to pillage before
you burn! Roll Eyes

Here's what I got after following Ian's Readme:

"Open the Zip Folder and "Copy and Paste" the "Scenery & Texture" Folder into your main FSX Folder" -- Ian Thatcher
I knew replacing the scenery and texture folders in FSX would not work, but . . . who am I to argue.

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Reply #17 - Nov 23^rd, 2006 at 3:01pm

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All this brings up another deficiency of FSX.

With FS9, we has detailed satalite photos of various major cities..
We no longer have them in FSDX as MS evidently thought it was not worth the money to get more higher resolution replacements.

The results is even major cities like New York City have taken a step backwards .

It is certainly no accident, and speaks volumes, that the demo contained one of about only two areas that uses a satalite photo.

Home airports are KMGJ and KSWF in Orange County, NY&&Stop by and say hello.

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Reply #18 - Nov 23^rd, 2006 at 5:15pm

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That probably explains why London is such a mess!
And confirms my belief that FSX is actually a "downgrade!"
There seem to be so many problems of one sort or another that it is better for M(qualcosa)s to bite the bullet withdraw FSX and re release it only when DX10 and Vista are up and running giving them time to sort out the mess.
But then again M(qualocsa)s are famous for releasing bug infested programmes!! It's their trademark!!
Vololiberista

Andiamo in Italia&&

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Reply #19 - Nov 23^rd, 2006 at 10:45pm

DizZa Ex Member

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Hey DizZa, what happened?

Now you say:

Before you said:

Did you downgrade??? Wink

lol

Sorry for this slightly trollish post, but I remember countless 'It runs just fine on my KillZor rig Grin

" posts from DiZza a few weeks back and it just it made me laugh.... Cheesy

The Normally Harmless, Harmlessly Normal Krigl

Yep.
We have three systems.

I guess I should change my sig, as it's technically my Dads computer for his work, I got fsX on it, runs great. In cities it STILL runs like crap though.

Two other systems are mine, the 3500+ and the P4 650.

I bought the P4 650 rig first, I was very impressed, so I bought another but with diferant memory, mobo and CPU.

Also my opinions change allot. In city areas with autogen the game runs terribly bad. If I want to bush fly then it runs good, then I'm happy.

Though, I still am very annoyed that I have to play fs9 to even fly in cities. It's stupid.

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