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Baby up and running...but now shes impounded. (Read 1827 times)
Nov 19th, 2006 at 4:44am
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First vehical...White/red 89 Ford Bronco II, 4x4, great condition, hated it then it grew on me.  Brakes went out, used a tree to stop and totaled the front.  Insurence wouldnt touch it (damn PLPD Angry ) so its sat at my friends along with 2 of my other accidents (deer) waiting to be torn down and sold for scrap and parts.  Few weeks ago I finally started to tear into it and found it really wouldnt take much to fix it back up, and theres plenty of Broncos sitting in junk yards.  So my origional plan to restore it for show went back into action. 

Got the front finished up about 2 weeks ago and moved onto the exhaust since the old one was rusted to nothing.  Full custom...had it converted over to true duals with glass packs and 3 inch chrome tips 8)  May only be a 2.9 V6 but has a nice low rumble/roar I wasnt expecting.  Just had it done Thursday afternoon.  Been driving it since to give my other truck a little break...and I love listening to the pipes since my other truck wont be getting any Tongue  Only problem is that true duals aint exactly legal in this state and many others since theres no catalytics...Also living in town I have to watch the noise at night Lips Sealed

Well...tonight I found myself stranded at a gas station in Warsaw...apparently city folk dont think it sounds so nice at 11PM Roll Eyes  Was leaving town as well, taking it easy since it was so late.  Not quite to the edge of town...red/blue lights.  Officer .............. comes up ever so friendly asking all the dumb questions and finally the "do you know why I pulled you over?" Apparently I was in violation of the noise ordinance, which would usualy just result in a ticket and a "have a safe ride home".   Couldnt just get a ticket...oh no...officer jacka$$ wouldnt believe me when I said it WAS a perfectly legal exhaust...he had to look for himself Grin  noticed the one thing I hoped he wouldnt...no cats Angry  So, it was taken to an impound lot and I found myself at a nearby gas station trying to call for a ride home.  Funny part is that I know the guy who takes in most of the impounds.  So getting it back tomorrow without a problem and only a little ticket.  Have 30 days to get cats put on it...but thats not going to happen.  Origionaly there were going to be cats, but want to keep backpressure to a minimum and left them off.  So illegal or not I wont be having any put on.  Nice thing about knowing people...its not that hard to create some fake ones that will be nothing more then covers around the pipe Grin  Ol oscer wont be able to cut into my pipes so they wont be able to prove it Tongue  ...hear me roar Grin 

So one little set back...next job is going to be a completely new suspension and an engine overhall.  Then interior is going to be completely replaced and customized, but keeping a lot of the origional look.  Getting all new windows/windshield since mine are scratched up.  Then once all the major work is done inside and out its fix a few dents and new paint (keeping origional red on white but brighter white and slightly richer red)...then last step will be new bumpers, mirrors, headlights/trims, tail lights, grill, tires, and rims.

Some people think its a little odd of a vehical to restore.  But to me its a good one.  Not overly old but not many are driving around today (at least in this area), and very few are even close to being in this good of condition.  Plus i've never seen one as a show vehical before so even better on the rarity.  Plus it was my first vehical and for some reason I dont want to get rid of it.  So might as well do something worth while.  Knowing people who can help do most of the work and even the paint it wont cost more then $3000-$4000.  Parts are fairly cheap but taking it to shops would rack up the labor costs way to much.  Looking to finish it within the next 2 years Wink

Will add some pics after I get it back.  Hope to eventualy have some before and after shots if things move faster then expected on the restore.
 
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Reply #1 - Nov 19th, 2006 at 4:59am

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Alas if you're breaking the law you have to expect this sort of thing. That is like speeding and then wondering why you've got a big fine! The law is there for a reason, the cops just enforce it they don't make it.
There is an idiot neighbour here who has a Lada with a bean-can exhaust and zooms up and down at 1am and it wakes everyone. He still can't work out why people keep smashing his car up, keying the paintwork and the like Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #2 - Nov 19th, 2006 at 5:30am
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Its illegal and mildly loud...but my neighbors have no problem with it.  Even had a few good comments about it.  Still quieter then a lot of the trucks in this town...and still quieter then before since it was broken off at the manifolds.  Just part of the culture in this little town.  Your truck is your show piece and it had better have a good sounding exhaust Tongue  But unlike some people i'm at least considerate at night.  After 10 PM i dont go around reving it up.  Just take it slow and coast when i can.  Its not an isue here its just a problem when out of town and in the cities.  Small towns are used to it and city folk arnt Roll Eyes  Even some of the cops in this town have trucks with illegal exhaust Lips Sealed

There is a line some people do cross though, like your neighbor.  Its one thing to have an exhaust that rumbles and roars when you rev it up.  But theres a few cars out there that people use coffee/bean cans and do it themselves and its nothing more then an earshattering, high pitched noise that leaves your ears ringing for an hour.  Those are the people who need to loose it.  Only reason mines in violation is because the cats.  Otherwise its perfectly legal.  Its not like its a deafining roar.  Run strait out the back most of the noise is thrown down the street anyways.  Not anything thats going to wake people up unless i really give her hell through town which I wont do because I cant stand people who do Wink
 
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Reply #3 - Nov 19th, 2006 at 6:01am

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Alas it is always a minority of twits that get the rest of us tarred with the same brush.
I'm a mad keen biker. I always had to check everything I did to my bike from the size of the letters on the number plate to the decibel output of the end can was just within the legal limits. Why? 'Cos thanks to the Hells Angels all bikers in Britain are considered to be psychopathic, drug dealing, granny murdering maniacs from hell! And the police hate us Roll Eyes
Having coppers as mates and relatives was always useful for checking I was obeying the letter of the law and knew it so well when I was pulled I could quote it to the officer Grin
 

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Reply #4 - Nov 19th, 2006 at 6:50am

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has a Lada with a bean-can exhaust and zooms up and down

Surely that can't be proper English Mark? You have somehow managed to shoe-horn 'Lada' & 'zooms' into one sentence, which doesn't make sense.

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Reply #5 - Nov 19th, 2006 at 12:39pm

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All things are relative. Compared to a Wartburg or a Moskvitch it zooms Grin Sorry I forget you guys don't have the same sense of scale I do from living in the former Eastern Bloc Grin
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Reply #6 - Nov 19th, 2006 at 9:29pm

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Reply #7 - Nov 24th, 2006 at 3:22pm

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Lol i was just going to mention, put some fake cat's on, hollow the inside clear of any baffles and that sort, bam.. you might also have a better sounding exhaust system. lol   Wink Grin
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Reply #8 - Nov 27th, 2006 at 1:32pm

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Here's a funny question:
If it's illegal in Indiana to not have catalytic converters, how do you expect to pass the emissions part of the inspection with fake cats or no cats? 

As for the noise... I am in that camp that would rather hear a Harley or a big-block with duals than just about any badly-tuned  compact "rice-burner"... between them and the VERY badly-tuned motorcycles I hear going by my window, I go half-crazy sometimes.

But there's a limit: sometimes the downshifting semis on the highway next door cause stuff to fall off the shelves...

A Bronco is a lovely thing (although I'd rather restore a '74); enjoy it but please don't be an ass about it. Nobody with even half a brain is impressed by pointless throttling... and the reason city folk aren't too keen on loud exhaust is because they hear a lot more of it, at close quarters, every day.

 

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Reply #9 - Nov 27th, 2006 at 2:18pm

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Here's a funny question:
If it's illegal in Indiana to not have catalytic converters, how do you expect to pass the emissions part of the inspection with fake cats or no cats?  

As for the noise... I am in that camp that would rather hear a Harley or a big-block with duals than just about any badly-tuned  compact "rice-burner"... between them and the VERY badly-tuned motorcycles I hear going by my window, I go half-crazy sometimes.

But there's a limit: sometimes the downshifting semis on the highway next door cause stuff to fall off the shelves...

A Bronco is a lovely thing (although I'd rather restore a '74); enjoy it but please don't be an ass about it. Nobody with even half a brain is impressed by pointless throttling... and the reason city folk aren't too keen on loud exhaust is because they hear a lot more of it, at close quarters, every day.



Simple: Indiana doesn't have any annual state-mandated emission inspections. Ol' Trip got nailed by a visual from the ol' Town Trooper due to excessive noise.
This is the reason I have a 1975 model pickup. Catalytic converters were optional back then. I just replaced the "Unleaded Fuel Only" gas gauge with an older one.  Wink
 

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If the cops pull you over because of loud engines, how come they don't pull over Harleys and Choppers?  Grin  Grin  Grin
 
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how come they don't pull over Harleys and Choppers?

The same reason they don't nick other agricultural vehicles Grin
 

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Reply #12 - Dec 27th, 2006 at 2:42am
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Well...nothing more then a fake casing has been put around the pipes.  Anyone who takes a quick look wouldnt know the difference.  There are no emissions tests here in Indiana Wink

As for compact rice-burner...its compact...but sounds nothing like it.  Took some work but that little 2.9 V6 has quite a low pitch.

Still needs a lot of work and now its becoming more tempting to finally sell it.  Other truck isnt the greatest but lately with work the Broncos been sitting since I need the truck to haul.  Its begining to look more and more like a work that will never end then a show peice.  Still fixing little things but I dont have the time or the money to do what I want with it.  And its not a winter vehical by any means.  Its a very short wheel base and even with just a little snow or ice I find myself sliding all over the place.  Its amazing it survived 2 other winters without getting wrecked Undecided 

But the one good thing about it...it can take a deer better then anything else I've seen...past 2 weeks I've had 2 of the 4 legged bastards decide to stand in the road.  Both times it was hit them or go in the ditch.  Caught the rear end of the first one and the head of the second, both got the passenger side corner.  At 45-50 miles an hour the only damage was pushed in headlight and a slight bend in the little bar right above the bumper.  Didnt even feel eather impact...just heard the loud bang.  Cant even tell theres anything wrong unless you get up close Smiley  Now, hoping that "third times a charm" doesnt play true though...caught the rear...then the head...that only leaves one thing...hit one full broadside...the trim around the headlights is all metal...however...the grill is nothing more then hard plastic Undecided  PLPD doesnt cover deer Embarrassed   And my driving isnt bad...I think in total in the past 2 years i've hit around 10 deer...the roads i take are full of them...and most of the time no matter how fast your going you wont avoid all of them.  After seeing many people go to the hospital this year from swerving, going into a ditch or trees, and flipping vehicals...I think I'de rather take my chances with the deer Smiley

Now thinking of finding a mid to late 90s Silverado and sticking with it.  I dont like the look of the new trucks and wont be getting another Ford.  Figure a decent Silverado would be something a little more practical and easier to fix up.  So shall see what happens...if I do sell the Bronco it will be sometime in the spring Sad
 
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Well...nothing more then a fake casing has been put around the pipes.  Anyone who takes a quick look wouldnt know the difference. 


Unfortunately that is the reason why the rest of the world thinks that the USA does not give a sh#t about the environment and climate change, but  America wants us to care about something that they are trying to change at the moment.

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expat wrote on Dec 27th, 2006 at 3:30am:
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Well...nothing more then a fake casing has been put around the pipes.  Anyone who takes a quick look wouldnt know the difference.  


Unfortunately that is the reason why the rest of the world thinks that the USA does not give a sh#t about the environment and climate change, but  America wants us to care about something that they are trying to change at the moment.

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Thats because CO2 is FAR less dangerous than NOx or CO, as the latter are toxic.
 
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I know that. But carbon dioxide is the big taboo greenhouse gas all the rage buzzword these days.  Grin
 

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Mushroom_Farmer wrote on Dec 27th, 2006 at 10:49pm:
I know that. But carbon dioxide is the big taboo greenhouse gas all the rage buzzword these days.  Grin


Better throw out my fire extinguishers here at home and hang a couple of buckets of water on the wall instead then:(

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Reply #18 - Dec 28th, 2006 at 1:52am
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Catilytic or not it would never pass some states emision laws...Its in severe need of an engine overhaul...all the oil rings and gaskets are shot...burns a LOT of oil Tongue  Whole quart every couple days.  One of the only people I know who accualy keeps a case in the back at all times Undecided  Once warmed up I leave a large smoke cloud behind after every stop.

Which...even though theres not tests here in Indiana...you can still get a 30 day warning to get it fixed.  Friend of mine ended up pulled over because his old diesel car (which always left the street full of smoke) and was givin 30 days to fix it and after that if not fixed could be impounded.  So hoping no cop is behind me when I come to a stop sign Tongue

Still gets me around...and if they want to say its not emision friendly then they can pay to have it fixed...i dont have the spare cash and I have to drive.  F-150 is almost as bad Embarrassed
 
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Reply #19 - Dec 28th, 2006 at 3:22am

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I know what you mean. I had a valve cover gasket fail when I lived in N.M., got pulled over for excessive smoke. After showing the friendly ploice officer what had happened he let me off with a warning. Before I could get home another not-so-friendly officer pulled me over and began to chew on my butt about how I was polluting his air, all the while puffing on a cigarette.  Roll Eyes I think he turned beet red and then purple when I showed him the warning from earlier.  Grin
 

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