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Nov 16th, 2006 at 8:40pm

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Hey guys,

This is the film from the Air Combat USA flight that I took back in August, uploaded to youtube. It's just the victory roll that I got, but it's still cool!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HRhGmvnL00Y

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Reply #1 - Nov 17th, 2006 at 11:18am

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Nice one! A lot less complicated than doing it in a Grob Tutor, I can tell you that!  8)
 
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Reply #2 - Nov 17th, 2006 at 12:32pm

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Nice, you lucky little....Lips Sealed Wink
 
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Reply #3 - Nov 17th, 2006 at 1:32pm

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Cool video Rhys!!!!!!

Are you still blatting around FS9 Seattle in your 260??

Cheers,

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Reply #4 - Nov 17th, 2006 at 3:03pm

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Nice one! A lot less complicated than doing it in a Grob Tutor, I can tell you that!  8)



Really, in what way? Smiley
 
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Reply #5 - Nov 17th, 2006 at 4:18pm

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Yes the last time i went flying in the grob ( a week ago) it defiantly wasn't more difficult than that ???
 
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Reply #6 - Nov 17th, 2006 at 4:32pm

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That's what I was thinking! Grin
 
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Reply #7 - Nov 17th, 2006 at 4:36pm

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its demonstrated in this video, if anything it looks easier Linky
 
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Reply #8 - Nov 17th, 2006 at 5:07pm

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Rolling Tutor can be as easy or as difficult as you make it. A little nose up and then full aileron and it will happily roll, although a little sluggishly. Below 100kts, a little back stick and a fair dollop of rudder and it flicks beautifully (note from video - and AEF flight with flick manouvres Shocked), and will stop basically as soon as the controls are centralised. Conversely, it can slow roll nicely too - indeed with a fair nose up attitude it can be done very sloooooowly indeed, with suitable bootfulls of coordinated rudder.
 
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Reply #9 - Nov 17th, 2006 at 10:47pm

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Aircombat USA was awesome.  4-2 over my dad the first time, we're going again some time this year.  Going to make it the annual Torphy Male's Dogfight Grin (which should get interesting once I'm an F-22 pilot and he's in his late 60s  Cheesy Cheesy )

Nice vid, good memories Wink
 
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Reply #10 - Nov 18th, 2006 at 3:12am

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Really, in what way? Smiley


In the video it wasn't very technical it was just 'stick to the right and keep the nose up'. Whenever Ive been in a Tutor the pilot makes me do the HASELL checks,

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and then its nose down to gain 120Kts, then pitch up to 45 degrees then stick to the left and smoothly round so that when the plane crosses the horizon you should be at 90 degrees to it. Level wings then nose up and regain altitude.

So to me it seems alot simpler than doing it in a Tutor.  Tongue
 
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Reply #11 - Nov 18th, 2006 at 5:40am

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Yup when i went flying it was the first maneuver we did all we had to do was make sure no obvious loose articles were in the way then wing over to the left and back round
 
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Reply #12 - Nov 18th, 2006 at 12:55pm

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In the video it wasn't very technical it was just 'stick to the right and keep the nose up'. Whenever Ive been in a Tutor the pilot makes me do the HASELL checks,

So to me it seems alot simpler than doing it in a Tutor.  Tongue


Indeed - but what you are seeing there is only a small snippet, and I'm sure the pilots would have done pre "air combat" checks, and would be constantly monitoring the situation - in a pay and fly experience like this the last thing you want the customer doing is wasting their air time doing checks (unless they really want to!).


45 degrees is a little extreme for a Tutor - about 20 is more sensible for a normal roll, and a little more, around 30, for a slow or hesistation roll.
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Reply #13 - Nov 18th, 2006 at 3:43pm

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Indeed - but what you are seeing there is only a small snippet, and I'm sure the pilots would have done pre "air combat" checks, and would be constantly monitoring the situation - in a pay and fly experience like this the last thing you want the customer doing is wasting their air time doing checks (unless they really want to!).


45 degrees is a little extreme for a Tutor - about 20 is more sensible for a normal roll, and a little more, around 30, for a slow or hesistation roll.
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I know if your paying for the flight then no, you wouldn't want to be doing checks but because I fly in the Tutor all the time the pilots try to advance you more in aerobatics, which includes all the checks.

And trust me its 45 degrees, It goes off the scale on the attitude indicator so you have to use your wingtips and the horizon to judge it.
 
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Reply #14 - Nov 18th, 2006 at 4:25pm

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And trust me its 45 degrees, It goes off the scale on the attitude indicator so you have to use your wingtips and the horizon to judge it.


For an aileron roll it isn't. For a barrel roll you would pitch up past the horizon (boots on the horizon), before keeping the pull on and introducing roll. For an aileron roll, nose just above the horizon, check, roll.

Trust me... Wink Smiley
 
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