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Nov 10th, 2006 at 5:15pm

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Hi guys.

Well after numerous requests for the SimV members about how i save my screenshots without loosing the initial quality, i decided to write this tutorial explaining the process.

Well let's begin.

First of all you'll need the following software:

1-Photoshop (http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/)

2-IrfanView (http://www.irfanview.com/)

Steps:

1-Well the first step i take is that i capture a screenshot using the "V" button in FSX. The screenshot are automatically stored in My Documents/My pictures/ Flight Simulator X folder.

2-Then i open them using photoshop programm. Then i resize the using the Image->Image Size option. (i usually resize my screenshots from 1280x1024  to 700x560 pixels)

3-Following that step, i save the resulting scrrenshot in a .PNG format (this will make it loose half of the file size while no graphical loss of the picture)

4-So now it's time to fire up the IrfanView programm.Start the programm and open the .PNG screenshot that you just saved. Next go to File->Save as and choose the JPG-JPEG file format. Now doing this you will see a small window appear. Here are the settings i use for that window:

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5-Next go back to photoshop and open the .JPG screenshot that you just saved.

6-Now this is the most important part of all. How to save you screenshot within the 100k limit.Go to File and the you will see the option Save for web.Here's a screenshot:

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7-Now click on it. You are suppose to get the following window:
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8-Now on the top right tools panel you will see an arrow.

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9-Click on it, it will bring another menu.Select Optimize for file size:

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10-Then just click save and save your screenshot.

Hope this will help you guys.


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Here are just few examples:

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Reply #1 - Nov 10th, 2006 at 5:31pm

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I just spotted this. Hope you don't mind me butting in. I like the idea of the tute but if you have Photoshop I'm wondering why you need IrfanView. Your method seems a tad complicated unless there's some advantage to doing it that way.

While I'm about it, a lot of members here seem to use Photoshop. From what I understand it's very expensive* & not something most people could afford for processing a few screenshots. What's the secret?

*PS. £569.88. Shocked My camera cost less than that.
 

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Reply #2 - Nov 10th, 2006 at 5:38pm

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I just spotted this. Hope you don't mind me butting in. I like the idea of the tute but if you have Photoshop I'm wondering why you need IrfanView. Your method seems a tad complicated unless there's some advantage to doing it that way.

While I'm about it, a lot of members here seem to use Photoshop. From what I understand it's very expensive* & not something most people could afford for processing a few screenshots. What's the secret?

*PS. £569.88. Shocked My camera cost less than that.


Look my friend this tutorial was made for people who asked me how i save them.So i described my process simple as that. As for photoshop i got mine for virtually free.(great thing having a brother who studies in game design.)

also i find this comment really unnecessary, the same question could have been adressed by PM system.
 

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Reply #3 - Nov 10th, 2006 at 5:41pm

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Look my friend this tutorial was made for people who asked me how i save them.So i described my process simple as that. As for photoshop i got mine for virtually free.(great thing having a brother who studies in game design.)

also i find this comment really unnecessary, the same question could have been adressed by PM system.

Fine. Sorry I asked. I won't bother you again.
 

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Reply #4 - Nov 10th, 2006 at 5:59pm

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Photoshop, Hagar, is stupidly expensive, and I would have to suspect most people running it have less than legitimate copies lol

I use photoshop Elements, which is a slightly cut down version, but came on my PC...think thats also quite a common way of getting it Smiley

And thanks for the tutorial M.R.Maiornikov, sure it will help a lot of people out.
 

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Reply #5 - Nov 10th, 2006 at 6:54pm

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Will try it.... looks great that Photoshop method...
 

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Reply #6 - Nov 11th, 2006 at 3:43am

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And now write a freeware tutorial for us mortal people, that doesn't have £500.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
 

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Reply #7 - Nov 11th, 2006 at 4:23am

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I use photoshop Elements, which is a slightly cut down version, but came on my PC...think thats also quite a common way of getting it Smiley





Same here.



Thanks for the tutorial M.R! Cheesy
 

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Reply #8 - Nov 11th, 2006 at 5:44am

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Can't the whole thing be done on irfanview? I'm not fortunate enough to have photoshop.
 
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Reply #9 - Nov 11th, 2006 at 6:38am

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Great tutorial M.R. I 'll give it a go and let you know how I made out. I'll put this thread in the "Library" as well.. Smiley
 

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Reply #10 - Nov 11th, 2006 at 6:59am

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Excellent tut MR! I for one do own Photoshop and am readily available to give it a go Smiley
 
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Reply #11 - Nov 11th, 2006 at 6:59pm

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For those of you with photoshop...just resize to 800x600, skip the infranview malarky, and go straight to the "save for web."

Swap view to 2-up or 4-up, and manually determine file size with the "Quality" box. Just keep on plugging in lower quality numbers until you get down under 100 kb (for the 2-up window, the image along with all its data, file size etc.., is the image on the right, and for the 4-up is the top right)...

It's common sense people, if file size becomes smaller, the image is compressed. Going through the .PNG and Infranview .JPG just screws with quality for no good reason, and the actual file size difference is, more than likely, non-existant.
 

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Reply #12 - Nov 11th, 2006 at 7:04pm

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For those of you with photoshop...just resize to 800x600, skip the infranview malarky, and go straight to the "save for web."

Swap view to 2-up or 4-up, and manually determine file size with the "Quality" box. Just keep on plugging in lower quality numbers until you get down under 100 kb (for the 2-up window, the image along with all its data, file size etc.., is the image on the right, and for the 4-up is the top right)...

It's common sense people, if file size becomes smaller, the image is compressed. Going through the .PNG and Infranview .JPG just screws with quality for no good reason, and the actual file size difference is, more than likely, non-existant.

well i don't know what your problem is, but if you don't believe in this tutorial then don't use it. I wrote it for people asking me how i save my images. Pure and simple. Also saying that everything i wrote here is pure crap just isn't polite of you.

also if you want to give advice, just start your own thread create your own images and write your own tutorial. I put great effort to make this and i don't need noone like you saying everything you do is bullshit. So...if you have a better way then start a new thread and write your own tutorial. Can't wait to read it....
 

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Reply #13 - Nov 11th, 2006 at 7:15pm

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Oh believe me, I don't need this tutorial, I got my own 'lil method that has worked out quite well for me.

Yes, that wasn't very polite of me, but this is awfully arrogant of you to think that your method is completely flawless.

I'm just trying to save some people from the ditch that you're digging for them. No biggie...
 

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Reply #14 - Nov 11th, 2006 at 7:21pm

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Oh believe me, I don't need this tutorial, I got my own 'lil method that has worked out quite well for me.

Yes, that wasn't very polite of me, but this is awfully arrogant of you to think that your method is completely flawless.

I'm just trying to save some people from the ditch that you're digging for them. No biggie...

man what is your problem the only person arrogant here is you, saying that you have your lil methode but refusing to share it with us. Atleast i try to help people out.So who's really arrogant here. And i didn't say my method is flawless. Like stated many times i just wrote to explain to people how i save my screenshots becausethey asked me to do it.

un frikin believable, the people in this world. Acusing you for trying to help others. Just unbelievable.
 

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Reply #15 - Nov 11th, 2006 at 7:27pm

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man what is your problem the only person arrogant here is you, saying that you have your lil methode but refusing to share it with us. Atleast i try to help people out.So who's really arrogant here. And i didn't say my method is flawless. Like stated many times i just wrote to explain to people how i save my screenshots becausethey asked me to do it.

un frikin believable, the people in this world. Acusing you for trying to help others. Just unbelievable.


Urm...yeah...urm...

Quoted just so you can't edit it later...
 

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Urm...yeah...urm...

Quoted just so you can't edit it later...


yah quote me all you want. But you just made an ass of yourself and simply don't know what to say.
 

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Reply #17 - Nov 11th, 2006 at 7:30pm

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yah quote me all you want. But you just made an ass of yourself and simply don't know what to say.
 

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Reply #18 - Nov 11th, 2006 at 7:31pm

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as soon as an admin will be online i will ask him to lock this thread so that people like wont hijack it with unworthy remarks. As for other members, they will use it if they want and if they don't then no one is forcing them
 

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Reply #19 - Nov 11th, 2006 at 7:38pm

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Uuhh,what´s going on here?
All that because it was at least my request to tell me,and others of course,how you manage to take these fine Pics M.R.
But 1st,thanks for the detailed description!
Sad to say that i belong to the group of non afforders of Photoshop.But if anybody has a freeware alternative,feel free to post it here!
 

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Reply #20 - Nov 11th, 2006 at 7:40pm

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Sharpen image once before sizing it down to 800x600, compression becomes much less noticible.
 

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Reply #21 - Nov 11th, 2006 at 7:42pm

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To be done with Irfanview i suppose?
 

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Reply #22 - Nov 11th, 2006 at 7:42pm

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Uuhh,what´s going on here?
All that because it was at least my request to tell me,and others of course,how you manage to take these fine Pics M.R.
But 1st,thanks for the detailed description!
Sad to say that i belong to the group of non afforders of Photoshop.But if anybody has a freeware alternative,feel free to post it here!

i seriously have no idea what pushed him to write those arrogant comments on me. Maybe he felt jelous or something, i seriously don't know. But anyway i won't go to his provocations and i will just the admin to lock this thread so that such further remarks wont be posted here.
 

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Reply #23 - Nov 11th, 2006 at 7:45pm

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Don´t get mad on that.Maybe it´s just his kind of behaviour to say or write directly what he thinks?
 

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Reply #24 - Nov 11th, 2006 at 7:47pm

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Don´t get mad on that.Maybe it´s just his kind of behaviour to say or write directly what he thinks?

well if he want to write something, then he should write his own tutorial to explain his way, but not the comments stating that i'm arrogant simply because i try to explain to people how i save my screenshots.
 

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Reply #25 - Nov 11th, 2006 at 7:48pm

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I don't know, as I don't have Infranview, but I'd imagine any digital photo editor would have a sharpening tool.

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i seriously have no idea what pushed him to write those arrogant comments on me. Maybe he felt jelous or something, i seriously don't know. But anyway i won't go to his provocations and i will just the admin to lock this thread so that such further remarks wont be posted here.


Nice, joyous, make-everbody-happy answer or honest answer?

Actually, I'll pick for you: you got knocked off of the IQ scale.
 

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I don't know, as I don't have Infranview, but I'd imagine any digital photo editor would have a sharpening tool.


Nice, joyous, make-everbody-happy answer or honest answer?

Actually, I'll pick for you: you got knocked off of the IQ scale.

oh this is just great, feel free to post more of your insults.
 

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Reply #27 - Nov 11th, 2006 at 8:22pm
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sorry to but in on this, but i've seen stormtroopers posts in the year and a half that i've actually been on here, and in no way is he arrogant.

Also from your reply to Hagar i do agree with him that it seems a bit complicated but no one can make you change the way you save your shots, He has also been on the forums quite a while longer than many of us who post here, so any advice that he gives is worth listening to.

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sorry to but in on this, but i've seen stormtroopers posts in the year and a half that i've actually been on here, and in no way is he arrogant.

Also from your reply to Hagar i do agree with him that it seems a bit complicated but no one can make you change the way you save your shots, He has also been on the forums quite a while longer than many of us who post here, so any advice that he gives is worth listening to.

Nemo.

well i've been on this for just about long as he does, but that doiesn't give me right attacking others because they try to help others (also because they were asked by others to do it). And if someone actually thinks it's complicated then just close this page go on your way, find your own way (maybe post your own tutorial describing a better way) and that's it... Insulting others because they help others i'm sorry but this is arrogance in a pure form.
 

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Reply #29 - Nov 11th, 2006 at 9:14pm

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Gentlemen,

Please let's keep some civility here and remember that we are all here to exchange ideas and discuss our thoughts in a mature and postive manner. 

Disagreement can be done in a number of manners;  specific choice of words can sometimes make a posting seem cordial, aggressive, or even negative.  Sometimes when we type...we see our written comments in one light based on other thoughts that we may be thinking.... but do not express in the replies....... BUT another person might read them differently without the accompanying "mental notes" happeniong in the writer's mind.

Additionally, without the benefit of body language and seeing facial expressions and hearing tone of voice...... it is easy to misunderstand others intent and comments. 

Then, as things deteriorate...... comments often get more pointed and more defensive.  This is where things tend to start to "cross the line" on SimV Forum rules.

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Reply #30 - Nov 11th, 2006 at 9:52pm

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agreed JB.  and thats where i stop in this thread.
 
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Reply #31 - Nov 12th, 2006 at 12:25am

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Can't I take an evening off without all hell breaking loose? This thread ends here,I think everyone has expressed themselves in every manner conceivable. If you want to bicker, phone each other, e-mail each other, but KEEP IT OUT OF THE STUDIO....enough said..play nice..
 

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