Warning... Sli and Cross fire can acuatly kill your Frame Rates. if your going to do it your main Graphics card has to have a lot of memory.

Thats exactly my point, Nick N. You're correct.
The software is out too early for the appropriate hardware. And all people like Brett Henderson making the throwaway line ..." A person starting from scratch need ONLY spend about $2,000 on a computer that will whizz through FS9. ", just lets you know he's not living in the real world with people with families ,mortgages..etc to take care of before they simply nip into their pockets and find a spare $2000.
   My point isn't directed at all these high flying (pardon the pun) whizzkids with goldcard bank accounts, but to the people like myself ( no Wji I haven't bought it ), can't afford the latest and greatest ....which incidentally will be about as useful as a Pentium 1  when DX10 comes in.
    My initial point is, the game is too demanding to be out at this moment.  Be guinea pigs if you want.  I'll wait till the  technology AND the patches are more available to us 'paupers'. 

The thing I find truely comical is that you all sat and requested a payware quality sim right out of the box. MS did that perfectly with a 70mm terrain mesh, and aircraft with the amount of polygons that PMDG have. Also the new physics models, not to mention all the other stuff they put in to make it the most realistic ever.

So has MS become greedy, or are they trying to f*** you in the arse? No, they are replying to what YOU! the CUSTOMER! said YOU! wanted. Unfortunately your requests forced them to use the latest in graphics rendering technology to creat a game that would preform to the standird YOU set for it. The only draw back is that the engine requires technology that most of you can't afford for whatever reason.

So the question is: Is MS to blame? Or is it you the over demanding FS dork that has pushed the sim to be so good that it can't run on your rig that your parents / wife wouln't let you upgrade.

I think the only people to blame are us on the forum, not MS.

Cheers
Cameron

Seems to me there are two camps of people complaining abot FSX.

The first are those with complaints about features or actually errors in the sim. Be it an incorrect mesh issue resulting in dimished accuracy of the scenery, or any of a few other errors people have mentioned here on the boards. These people I think have legitimate gripes, because it wouldn't matter if you had a $4800 Alienware monster - these same issues would still be there.

The other camp are people who feel the game as advertised promised the rich enviroment along with all the other eye candy and features - runnable on what they have now. If memory serves me I believe when word started coming out about FSX it was infact said that it would be optimized to take advantage of DX10 and Vista. I remember everyone panicking about htis . people were talking about how "OMG the sims not going to run without Vista or DX10". Now people seem to be surprised by the version that WAS released (without the delayed Vista and DX10)not running full bore on their current rigs. I have a relatively dated 2.8 Ghz PC that will run it, I had to get 3 gigs of ram to get to run, but it does run - fairly nice too.

Point is, the only really legitimate compaints should be those regarding errors - if you cant run at 50 FPS, that's not an error, you just don't have what the sim needs to run enjoyably.

IMHO any way.

Keni

[quote author=Brett_Henderson  link=1162387609/15#19 date=1162408090]..  If you were going out to buy a brand new computer right now,, that you knew you'd be gaming on.. $2000 is pretty darn reasonable. [/quote]

You are JOKING!!!!! no one in their right mind would spend $2,000 and certainly not in order to play just one programme!!! If you can spend this money and want to then good luck to you but most of us can only afford to upgrade slowly.  I have never spent more than £300 on a new build.  In 12 to 18 months time that's how much it'll cost to build a top of the range PC that will run FSX at a good speed.  And by then there will be patches for all the bugs in FSX, Vista and DX10!!!
Vololiberista

PS As for DX10 NO ONE knows how it will work. All we have is an artists impression of how M(qualcosa)s hope it will look like. Both Vista and DX10 are in their infancy. I think FSX should have been left until next year before release.

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You'll be surprised that there are people out there who complained that they were unable to enjoy FSX at 120FPS and could only get 30FPS. Many people laughed at them and told them they should be glad that they even got 30 when most of us barely get passed 10-15.

Have to sort of chime in on keni's thought.

How many people run out and buy close to $1000 shaped skis, $200 bindings, some nice carbon fiber poles at about $100, a comfly high performance set of boots with footbeds for another $500 or so, and then pop about $50 -90 a DAY on a lift itcket?

Plenty.

Looked at from the standpoint of stuff like skiing, golf, hunting / fishing (bought a good gun lately?) and otherr hobbies......... a $2000 computer to be able to "play" is not that "out of line".

What starts to get "out of line" is people who do the computer AND the skiing AND the golf AND the hunting....AND.....AND.....AND.......

I come back to the "truth in advertising" bit as the real crux of the matter.  it is not truthfully TELLING people what they might expect out of the sim on a given machine.

best,

..........john