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Oct 26th, 2006 at 7:30pm

chrisco17   Offline
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Does anyone else have this issue?
I have no glass in the windows of the default aircraft,
but the aircraft I imported from FS9 has the window (canopy in this case). Top is default FSX, bottom is imported from FS9.
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All of my default aircraft are like this.
???
 

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Reply #1 - Oct 26th, 2006 at 9:57pm

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I don't have that problem at all. Did you check your video drivers? Someone once pointed out that certain older versions of the video drivers work better than the new ones.
 
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Reply #2 - Oct 27th, 2006 at 2:23am
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What video card do you have?
 
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Reply #3 - Oct 27th, 2006 at 10:31am

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What video card do you have?


It says on my signature that I have a GeForce 3, but I couldn't get the graphics to show clearly at all with that card, so put my BFG Asylum GeForce FX5200 128 card in.

Now I can actually read the guages in the VC, and see the RADAR in Flight Controller mode.

Either way, I know that the 128 isn't enough, but I should still be able to see everything, just maybe slower.

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I don't have that problem at all. Did you check your video drivers? Someone once pointed out that certain older versions of the video drivers work better than the new ones.


Maybe that is my problem, I have the latest driver installed.
That is unfortunate that you need old drivers, especially when they alway say "uodate to the latest drivers"
 

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Reply #4 - Oct 28th, 2006 at 2:36am

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......mm.....I have the same "problem".......... my c172 from FS9 shows glass in fsx but the default fsx aircraft are windowless............just wondering though how  it can be a drivers issue if imported a/c work and others not............I would have thought in that case imported planes would be windowless too...............puzzling!......... commoner ???
 

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Reply #5 - Oct 28th, 2006 at 4:15am

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The winows are made up from a shader material from what i have seen, it could be that the 5200 doesnt support it.
 
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Reply #6 - Oct 28th, 2006 at 5:24am

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The windows are made up from a shader material from what i have seen, it could be that the 5200 doesnt support it.


..Then why are FS9 imports ok? .........commoner Wink
 

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Reply #7 - Oct 28th, 2006 at 5:26am
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Because maybe they do glass in a different way....??  ???
 
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Reply #8 - Oct 28th, 2006 at 7:00am

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...mm....yes that could be so.......... Just emailed M$ with the query and got the usual response that they will try to get back within 24hrs..........Not holding my breath on that one............commoner Grin
 

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Reply #9 - Oct 28th, 2006 at 7:01am

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...mm....yes that could be so.......... Just emailed M$ with the query and got the usual response that they will try to get back within 24hrs..........Not holding my breath on that one............commoner Grin


They never do... Tongue
 
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Reply #10 - Oct 28th, 2006 at 9:04am

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The probability that the 5200 does not support a new way of rendering glass sounds pretty logical to me.
 

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Reply #11 - Oct 28th, 2006 at 9:47pm

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..Then why are FS9 imports ok? .........commoner Wink



Any FS9 model that used an untextured Material will be totally invisible in FSX.

Any FS9 model that used a textured Material will be visible.

FSX default models who have invisible glass is the fault of the video card not supporting at least Pixel Shader 1.3 or better.
 

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Reply #12 - Oct 28th, 2006 at 10:07pm

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Did you overwrite any file from FS9 into FSX?  ???
 

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Reply #13 - Oct 29th, 2006 at 3:02am

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Any FS9 model that used an untextured Material will be totally invisible in FSX.

Any FS9 model that used a textured Material will be visible.



..mm...care to explain textured Material and untextured material?............never heard that mentioned before....maybe give me an example of a plane using an untextured Material...........commoner;)
 

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Reply #14 - Oct 29th, 2006 at 6:55am

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Just a thought but maybe this is related to your problem. http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=FSX;action=display;num=116...
You could try temporarily removing  the xxx_reflections.dds from the Texture folder of offending aircraft to see if that fixes it.

I've seen little bugs like this in the past & the problem is usually related to video card/drivers & incompatability with the current version of DX. I believe an updated version of DX9.0c is now available from the Windows Update site. You might like to try it but I can't guarantee it won't make things worse. Unless anyone comes up with better ideas it might be safer to leave well alone & put up with it for now.
 

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