Simviation Forum - What's your frame rate?

Oct 14^th, 2006 at 11:18pm

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Featured article in fsinsider.com

What's your frame rate?

This is an interesting article describing how Flight Simulator checks your hardware and determines what "performance bucket" it falls in......

VERY interesting reading!

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Reply #1 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 3:26am

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Well im pretty happy Grin

The space free isnt exact, i have a 350GB hardrive split into a D (250GB) and a C (105ish GB) I found in the demo i just need to keep traffic down and the do the autogen fix, and i can pull 25 frames easy. Grin

Edit: just noticed the gauge on the side, My system : WWOW lol

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Reply #2 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 3:58am

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Are you sure this thing is correct.....cos it says that my rig is better than yours and I cant get 25fps with all the settings on lowest

??? Roll Eyes

???

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Reply #3 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 3:59am

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My system is in the last green tile and the gauge gives PURRRR as performance Grin

i saw the Deluxe version yesterday but still not sure about buying it Roll Eyes

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Reply #4 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 4:02am

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OMG, how did my system top out? im still runing with a radeon 9200 ???

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Reply #5 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 4:15am

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Well, purring may be alright for cats, but it ain't so good for computers, it would seem.

My system 'PURRS', too, but I get frame rates in single figures in FSX Pro unless I turn most things right down.

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Reply #6 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 4:32am

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Mine was WWOW!!! Grin

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Reply #7 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 4:38am

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For some reason i don't think this analyser is accurate.....looking at some peoples specs and what they get on the bar thing.

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Reply #8 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 5:30am

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me neither, my computers old as dirt Tongue

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Reply #9 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 10:13am

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I hate to be cynical here.... but whom is to benefit if someone runs this "test" and gets told that their computer is a "Wow" when it comes to buying a demanding piece of software?

Please keep in mind the "minimum machine specifications" stipulated for fs2004 and FSX.

Also please note the "technicality" in this evaluation system for that little bar graph. It is not an absolute scale....it is a sliding scale. It ranks you machjine by those machines it has TESTED.... not by some fixed standard. So if a lot of people with slow machines test their results (which you'd EXPECT.... those with the fast stuff KNOW they have fast stuff) then if you have a mid-level machine in the absolute heiarchy of machine technology....... you'll show up on the high end of the scale.

The most important and instructive information in that article is what Microsoft ACES consider a "medium high" level machine. I quote:

For example, the “Medium High” bucket requires the following values:

CPU Speed: 3.0Ghz
RAM: 1GB
Video Memory: 128MB

If your PC has a 3 GHz processor and 1GB of RAM, but just 64MB on the video card, it is demoted from the “Medium High” bucket to the “Medium” bucket.

Sorry...... but I'd take this graphical system evaluator tool with a HUGE grain of salt. And if you have a machine les than what they mention above....... don't expect using a lot of the new features from FSX.

My $0.02.

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..................john

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Reply #10 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 11:55am

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yea, this thing does not seem accurate enough, now that ive seen other results, 512 mb ram and you got the same rate as me, and i have 2 gigs... Im thinking FSX will not like that you only have 2 gigs. this seems to give an extremely rough guess based on a few things like your processor and video card. oh well... Grin

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Reply #11 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 12:35pm

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so what specs would you need to run everything maxed out easily? the minimum specs are a load of rubbish in my opinion.

My specs
I7920 4ghz
Asus P6T Deluxe V2
6gb Corsair DDR3 1600
BFG GTX285OCX
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Reply #12 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 12:36pm

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trouble is, as far as I can tell from here, similar logic is used to determine the automatic defaults set when you first run FSX.

Well worth tinkering with the settings to optimise frame rate against visual content on your particular system. Made a huge difference to mine after trading complexity for performance.

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Reply #13 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 1:09pm

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so what specs would you need to run everything maxed out easily? the minimum specs are a load of rubbish in my opinion.

CRAY

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Reply #14 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 1:19pm

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Here's what it said about my machine........ and I can't run FS2004 (FS9) fully maxed out at acceptable framerates.

Compare my result to THIES result above. He gets a slightly higher result (20th percentile vs 23rd percentile)....... but my CPU clock is faster, I have twice as much RAM, I have a faster Radeon video card.

Figure that out. The best explanation is that between the time that THEIS did his test and the time I did mine....... more people with faster machines ran the test....thereby sliding the scale downward. Which makes this test pretty meaningless if that is the case. (BTW.... I have multiple hard drives.... and the listing of free space was wrong.)

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Reply #15 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 6:03pm

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well this is what i got
WWOW

and im on med - low and get 15fps, i even took of the frame lock adn still only gained like 2
and my 3dMark 05 score is 9507, pretty high and FSX is still laggin like a something

i think FSX needs some optimization by the use adn my MS

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Reply #16 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 7:21pm

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This is what they say mine is...

... but I don't belive them. Its really more like this...

... seems like it anyway, i only get 10 to 12 FPS in FS9 at medium settings... and 8 to 10 FPS in FSX Demo at the same.

any ideas to improve this boys? Grin

AND HOW THE HECK IS MINE BETTER THAN FLYMO's WHEN HE CLEARLY HAS THE BETTER MACHINE? ? ?

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Reply #17 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 9:40pm

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lol, thats pretty much me too
this scanner thing is screwed

what the...?
i'm running W2K, and with the junk i have for hardware...?????????

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Reply #18 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 9:42pm

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well you can try by getting a sound card...from the looks of it your system is useing the AC97 Audio which is the onboard sound

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Reply #19 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 9:49pm

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actually i'm using a creative soundblaster live card

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Reply #20 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 9:52pm

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sorry ...

my reply was meant for Demo

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Reply #21 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 10:26pm

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lol, I'm just ranting that Flymo has a better machine than I (Better processor, better graphics card and better Memory) but yet the diagnostics say I have the better machine... Grin

... and the AC 97 and my CREATIVE Sound sys is a pretty good lil system... and has nothing to do with running FS XD

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Reply #22 - Oct 16^th, 2006 at 7:39am

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Interesting stuff.

So how come I still only get 10-15 FPS with low settings ???
Maybe I'll try adding a tad more memory.

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Reply #23 - Oct 16^th, 2006 at 7:52am

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So how come I still only get 10-15 FPS with low settings ???
Maybe I'll try adding a tad more memory.

First of all there are TWO bar graph pages. You have to hit the "more information" button to see the relative comparison screen in addition to the one you have in the image above. The image you are showing there is the FIRST screen of the two. I think most people get to the top end of it Wink

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And in answer to the main question........... it is because this "test" is not too accurate. For example, everyone says that lots of RAM is very, VERY important to FSX..... but in this "test" machines with 512M RAM can beat out a machine with 1024M of RAM.

So either everyone is wrong about the RAM issue....... or the test is wrong. And the test mantions that it does not take into account the graphics card at all.

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Reply #24 - Oct 16^th, 2006 at 8:30am

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the test also takes into account any bottleneck you have. if you have a bottleneck then it marks you down as said on the first page..

however im now getting 40FPS on FSX on high settings so im pretty happy Cheesy

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Reply #25 - Oct 16^th, 2006 at 8:42am

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This results of the test are random, they are just collecting your system information. Grin

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Reply #26 - Oct 16^th, 2006 at 5:30pm

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Help me out! Which keys do i have to press to get infos about the FR?

It looks like chicken,smells like chicken,tastes like chicken,but when Chuck Norris says its Beef...then damnit...its Beef!!!

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Reply #27 - Oct 16^th, 2006 at 5:46pm

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lol, I'm just ranting that Flymo has a better machine than I (Better processor, better graphics card and better Memory) but yet the diagnostics say I have the better machine... Grin

... and the AC 97 and my CREATIVE Sound sys is a pretty good lil system... and has nothing to do with running FS XD

also i have overclocke my GPU so i kow have a 7900GTX (the 7900 GTO which i have is just a downlcocked GTX so i overclocked it to GTX speeds which is 1600mhz Cheesy

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love free upgrades me Cheesy

just got to overclock my CPU and add the ram fom my old PC and im champion

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Reply #28 - Oct 16^th, 2006 at 7:29pm

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mine is way up there i just dont know how to post it
i seriously do not think this is correct my pc is definetly not that high end

big or small i like them all ...? that dosent sound right&&slew mode dose not count as flying&&737-700aholic

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