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Oct 14^th, 2006 at 10:01pm

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Well after 3 days entirely spent on adjusting my copy of FSX (just didn't wanted to give up) i finally reached a point where it became playable.I experience occasional lag (maynly in cyties and town) but overall it's stable (the graphics and autogen is not that great thaugh)

Here's a shot i made while flying one of the mission:

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Reply #1 - Oct 14^th, 2006 at 10:48pm

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Time to refuel-Somewhere in British-Columbia mountains

"The old Crow"

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Reply #2 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 7:06am

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Wow! Looks beautiful Shocked

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Reply #3 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 8:05am

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Now no offence, especially to you M.R.Maiornikov, as they are great shots. But other than the water in shot 1, can anyone honestly say FSX looks better then FS9 with addons? Atleast FS9 has flyable frames aswell....

Sorry but its just my opinion! Great shots though 8)

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Reply #4 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 8:08am

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Please can you share all your settings with us so I can try and make it playable....they look awesome!

.Mic

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Reply #5 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 9:06am

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But other than the water in shot 1, can anyone honestly say FSX looks better then FS9 with addons?

|Alex|

........yes but what about when the "addons" arrive for FSX?...and they will,sure as night follows day......shouldn't we be waiting for that day before comparing.........or at least comparing FS9 WITHOUT addons with the new FSX? Surely that would be a fairer comparison!..........commoner Wink

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Reply #6 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 10:48am

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Please can you share all your settings with us so I can try and make it playable....they look awesome!

.Mic

Thanks for comments everyone

Mic for adjusting my fsx i went to this site http://www.fox-fam.com/wordpress/?page_id=41 ; and applied every tweek posted there.Second i went to the fsx.cfg file and made some changes there as well:

1-under [TERRAIN] section i inserted these two lines
TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_TREES_PER_CELL=2500
TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS_PER_CELL=1000

2- i changed the SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED=1 to SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED=0

3-i set the setting
TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=20 to
TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=400

Also i applied this setting to my shortcut that i found in avsim forum
http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=177&topic_id=1168&mesg_id...

For the actual settings i will post them later as i can't get in FSX right now (Brother's sleeping and the comp is in his room

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P.S. Also you might want to try to set your special effects animation to medium as judgiung from this thread it has a significant impact on your overall performance.

http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=121&topic_id=358723&mesg_...

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Now no offence, especially to you M.R.Maiornikov, as they are great shots. But other than the water in shot 1, can anyone honestly say FSX looks better then FS9 with addons? Atleast FS9 has flyable frames aswell....

Sorry but its just my opinion! Great shots though

|Alex|

I totally agree with you on this one. While fsx becomes stable on medium settings i can run FS9 on highest possible ones and it just looks pretier. But it's my opinion so some of you might not agree.

« Last Edit: Oct 15^th, 2006 at 1:10pm by M.R.Maiornikov »

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Reply #7 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 11:47am

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I totally agree with you on this one. While fsx becomes stable on medium settings i can run FS9 on highest possible ones and it just looks pretier. But it's my opinion so some of you might not agree.

That's because TODAY's computers are now able to run FS9 and because FS9 has reached its 3-year mark [the point where it becomes more enjoyable due to the progress of hardware]. FS9 would never have ran smoothly at all with hardware that existed 3 years ago. The same will hold true with FSX once it hits it 3-year mark.

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But other than the water in shot 1, can anyone honestly say FSX looks better then FS9 with addons?

YES!!! Of course, what you say is very true that FS9 with addons is way better than FSX DEFAULT!!! But wait a while and you'll see that FSX with ADDONS will far surpass FS9 with PAYWARE ADDONS!!!

I remember seeing a few payware addons for previous versions of FS [before FS9] that now look like scrap when compared to today's addons.

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Reply #8 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 2:53pm

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ok here's another one i took after applying the latest tweek: reducing special effects to medium-autogen very dense

Now my fsx starting to be quite enjoyable. Now im just waiting for the buildings texture tweek to come out. Wink

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Reply #9 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 3:01pm

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DENSE autogen REALLY? whats your system like and whats the rest of your settings like?

how much of a performance boost did you get from resizing ground textures, and how much did visual quality change?
I havnt done it yet but it might be worthwhile Wink

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Reply #10 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 3:07pm

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That oil rig mission has to be the best one there......it's so fun!

.Mic

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Reply #11 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 3:21pm

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DENSE autogen REALLY? whats your system like and whats the rest of your settings like?

how much of a performance boost did you get from resizing ground textures, and how much did visual quality change?
I havnt done it yet but it might be worthwhile Wink

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in cities i get 14 fps but in rural area i get the desired 24 fps

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Reply #12 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 3:44pm

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not really answering much of the question...is there much visual detail loss with resized ground textures? what was your performance like before you resized the ground textures?

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Reply #13 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 3:48pm

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not really answering much of the question...is there much visual detail loss with resized ground textures? what was your performance like before you resized the ground textures?

if you mean resizing the ground texture from 1024x1024 to 512x512 then i havent do that because last time i did my fsx went crazy with the lag.

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Reply #14 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 3:57pm

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ah ok thanks

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Reply #15 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 4:31pm

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Here's another one i took while flying a rescue mission.

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Reply #16 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 4:58pm

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Are you using negative flaps on that plane? How is it?

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Reply #17 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 5:02pm

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Are you using negative flaps on that plane? How is it?

there is a stick near the pilots seat (right side) that goes up and down, if that helps.

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Reply #18 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 5:18pm

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there is a stick near the pilots seat (right side) that goes up and down, if that helps.

No, I mean how does the plane handle when you use it?

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Reply #19 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 5:32pm

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No, I mean how does the plane handle when you use it?

oh sorry the plane handles very well.

here's another one MUltiplayer fun !!! notice the crazy boeing in right buttom corner

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Reply #20 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 5:36pm

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im about to try those tweeks posted above but before i do i want to say something

this is possibly the biggest waste of money ever. i spent £60 on it today, and it looks absolutly crap, and my rig isnt crap in anyway, the only possible system upgrade that wnt involve spending hundres is to get another few gigs of ram (currently have 1 gig)

i get around 20FPS on med-low settings, now on the first demo i got 25 FPS med-high WTF is going on here, this is a joke. their is some serious problems with FSX and until these gets fixed their is no point in buying it unless you have an uber rig!

thats my 2 cents on this

john

p.s. if the tweaks work then i may say differant but until then waste of cash, FS9 currently looks loads better!

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Reply #21 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 5:47pm

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john,

Check out the thread listed below and read the link posted there for some VERY interesting information on what Microsoft ACES consider a "mid-level" machine. A mid-level machine will only get mid-level stuff out of FSX. And interestingly, it appears that the "target" that they were shooting at for framerates is only about 20 fps on a given machine "level".

So from reading that stuff my take on this is that a "mid level" machine will get you mid level features on FSX at about an AVERAGE of 20 fps.

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=FSX;action=display;num=116...

best,

.....john

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Reply #22 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 5:49pm

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wnyone know where i can find teh FSX cfg file??
cnt find it

cheers
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Reply #23 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 5:52pm

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wnyone know where i can find teh FSX cfg file??
cnt find it

cheers
john

C:\documents and settings\your name\Application data\microsoft, in case anyone else doesn;t know. It’s a hidden file, though, so you have to make it visible in View menu

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Reply #24 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 5:58pm

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that doesnt exist for me, is the folder hidden??

how do i show hidden files/folders??

cheers
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Reply #25 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 6:01pm

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tools->folder option->view->show hidden files and folders.

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Reply #26 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 6:07pm

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cheers for the speedy replies lads Cheesy

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i will see if i can dismiss my earlier comments on FSX

john

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Reply #27 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 6:08pm

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Well I cant say FSX looks fantastic on my comp.... but with the minor tweak I used its ok... I probably should start tweaking like crazy now eh? I will try these tweaks and see where I get!

Cheers, Gunny

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Reply #28 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 6:12pm

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yeh, i think we should apply for a twaks board or something because it would take alot of this away from the main boards and be easier to find. just somewhere for people to post little tweeks??

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Reply #29 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 6:22pm

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yeh, i think we should apply for a twaks board or something because it would take alot of this away from the main boards and be easier to find. just somewhere for people to post little tweeks??

so care to post your results mate?

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Reply #30 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 6:44pm

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OMG i totaly take back my previous comments about regretting buying FSX, applied a few tweeks and awesome results

now running all on high except for clouds med high and aircraft ultra high and im getting 25FPS min 40FPS max and it looks stunning i must say

just takeing of from lukla and dropped into the valley, stunning i must say

im gonna have to tweak FSX to the max now see what else i can do

john

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Reply #31 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 9:13pm

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My, my, my! You're the first person I've seen so far who actually changed his opinion of FSX from totally negative to totaly positive without having to actually start an arguement. Shocked

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This is what I like about tweaks. Grin

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Reply #32 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 9:24pm

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OMG i totaly take back my previous comments about regretting buying FSX, applied a few tweeks and awesome results

now running all on high except for clouds med high and aircraft ultra high and im getting 25FPS min 40FPS max and it looks stunning i must say

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just takeing of from lukla and dropped into the valley, stunning i must say

im gonna have to tweak FSX to the max now see what else i can do

john

Glad the tweeks helped you. Now i'm just waiting for some tweeks to increase the performance in cities.

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Reply #33 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 9:30pm

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I can't find any of the .cfg's... FS9 nor the FSX demo...

C: Drive/Documents and Settings/HP_Owner/ but no Application Data...

Could they be anywhere else anybody?

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Reply #34 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 9:33pm

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I can't find any of the .cfg's... FS9 nor the FSX demo...

C: Drive/Documents and Settings/HP_Owner/ but no Application Data...

Could they be anywhere else anybody?

please read on buttom of page two on how to show hidden folders.

Also just to inform you guys there is a new tweek that came out. It tweeks the autogen building scenery.

head out to this site http://www.fox-fam.com/wordpress/?page_id=41

and scroll down to this section:"Replacement Autogen Building Textures - These two files (BLD and AG) will replace most of your autogen textures with smaller versions"

the installation is explained there. Hope this helps

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Reply #35 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 9:51pm

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Thank you very much man, I'll have to try these out Grin

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Reply #36 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 9:52pm

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Well i can honestly say that my fsx improved alot thanks to the tweek. Here's a screenshot i took at Friday Harbor because it's there that i experienced horrible lag at the beginning.

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Reply #37 - Oct 15^th, 2006 at 10:14pm

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This is what's so good about tweeks. Microsoft knew that it is virtually impossible to create a sim that can work flawlessy and perfectly on every computer due to the uniqueness of computers.

This is what the tweeks are made for. Tweeks allow us to manually configure the sim to perform well under any system configuration. Thus allowing the user to be satisfied. Unfortunately, just like medications, the tweeks don't work for everyone and as a result we have the occasional critic who hates FS. Roll Eyes

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Reply #38 - Oct 16^th, 2006 at 5:58am

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my only problem now is my inner city FPS, drops to about 15fps so im gonna try the above tweek for replacemnt textures and see what that does

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Reply #39 - Oct 16^th, 2006 at 7:32pm

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i'm beginning to enjoy FSX.

"Dornier"

« Last Edit: Oct 16^th, 2006 at 8:55pm by M.R.Maiornikov »

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Reply #40 - Oct 17^th, 2006 at 6:32pm

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just dones a tree texture tweek and got eanother 5 FPS abouts and it looks the same pretty much,
im not to fussed about cities and things cos i spend most my time flying in the countrysides of places.

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Reply #41 - Oct 17^th, 2006 at 7:26pm

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just dones a tree texture tweek and got eanother 5 FPS abouts and it looks the same pretty much,
im not to fussed about cities and things cos i spend most my time flying in the countrysides of places.

Same as me mate but i teall you look at my "Dornier" pic. you wont see much difference from the air anyways

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